@radiopetushki I could certainly add my post to my user page on the wiki, at a minimum. It is a publicly editable wiki, so anyone can add a post. I'm both heartened, and terrified to hear that Pneumatic Post is being used by anyone else! I'd love to see what you've cleaned up. I've cleaned up the micropub endpoint a heap since I initially released it. You've inspired me to re-double my open sourcing and cleaning up what I'm running.
@radiopetushki re: JSON Feed, the biggest issue I've run into, is that I should a) nest my extensions, and b) probably remove the extensions completely. No reader in the universe will ever support my custom extensions, so I need a different way of delivering the content stored in extensions to subscribers. The JSON Feed is really the backbone of how all data is displayed internally, though, so I've been lazy, and not cleaned that all up.
@eli As has been mentioned, this is a great post for highlighting the not-so-obvious path that a lot of people interested in the IndieWeb can take. It helped re-affirm my assessment of my own situation, which only makes it easier for me to spend time and energy on monitoring IndieWeb stuff even though I'm not ready to jump all-in right now. Thanks!
@radiopetushki interesting. Why do you say that? The indieweb is predicated on basing identity off of domain name, it is very possible to completely disassociate you-IRL from your indieweb presence. This makes the indieweb a powerful tool for citizen journalism, because it doesn’t require any sort of central authority, nor any single point of authentication (especially since indieauth can work off of GPG key alone). So, as long as a domain name isn’t directly linkable back to your identity you can remain more or less anonymous on the indieweb.
@eli great article - thank-you and bookmarked so I can keep going back to it, full of interesting information and links that it is.
@manton has made micro blogging really easy - and it is great - but there is so much more that is possible - IF - and that’s the rub - IF you have the technical chops.
Here is a question I am asking of all in this thread. How do we make indie web really approachable. I am not technically naive - knowing enough to know what I don’t know if you will. But I am often lost by some of the dialogue in here.
The OUTCOMES I want. But the descriptors to get there - well - I can manage sometimes, but often not.
How do we start to fix this? Not for me - but a whole host of people who would do this if it all didn't seem so daunting.
@amit GREAT post! 🙌 @JohnPhilpin I totally agree that the learning curve is still a bit steep for the IndieWeb. It is still very much for nerds, by nerds. I've been kicking around an idea — trying to figure out how to element the need for a hosting provider/domain name to really participate in the indieweb. I think that could be accomplished, and a system built by leveraging the decentralized web…but that, too, has a steeeeeeeeeeeeep learning curve. BUT! folks are most certainly working on it — myself included (although, I am far from a genius dev.).
@manton ! Micro.Blog is a big step forward and I know you are on a journey ... and you have in this network a group of people who want you to succeed ... my point is really to the wider topic ... take specifics like webmentions, micro pub endpoints .... hell, even css .... its those worlds that we need to wrap our heads around ... most people will - quite rightly - ask ‘why?’
Part of my life is in digital identity! self sovereignty et al ... it’s the same challenge ... making the general public ‘woke’ to what is going on and trying to get those that know so much to lower the barrier to entry and decrease the slope of the learning curve so more people see why they should be on board - and do get on the bus.
The ‘ masses ‘ were once controlled through opium dens, this time it is more insidious.
@mmarfil @daiwei OK, perhaps I was being over defensive. My apologies. I agree that the technology can seem difficult, and part of the reason for that is that there are so many different ways to reach the same end point. All I will say is that I still find bits of it very difficult, but it has been the helpfulness of the people that makes the technology easier to grasp.
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