manton
manton

If I have to accept cookies one more time I’m going to lose my mind. What started as a well-meaning privacy initiative has made the web worse. Enough already.

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kaa
kaa

@manton What makes it worse is the options to not accept are usually hidden...it makes the web sooo much worse.

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kjz
kjz

@manton the problem’s with websites trying to get round the law, not the law itself

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Burk
Burk

@manton Being online means all we do anymore is accept cookies without actually looking and identify traffic lights..

So broken. 😔

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adamprocter
adamprocter

@manton yep

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lmika
lmika

@manton I’d settle for websites throwing up the popover once when I first visit them, and then remembering that I accepted cookies, maybe in a cookie, so I don’t see the popover next time I visit. It strikes me a strange that more sites don’t do this.

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jaitalking
jaitalking

@manton I absolutely agree!

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odd
odd

@lmika @manton It doesn’t even have to be a popover, it could be a little section at the top of the page, (so that you’re not taken out of your mind when getting there), and have a simple Accept/Decline. There should really be something about site settings in the html (6?) specs, and not as regular cookies, because when you delete your log, those settings will be forgotten.

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philly
philly

@manton Seriously. And I’ve noticed that some cookie notice pop-ups are now blocked by my handful of content blockers in Safari, so I can’t even click to “only allow essential” cookies and the website becomes impossible to even interact with at that point.

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pimoore
pimoore

@manton Unless I need to interact with the site for some reason, these are more of the ones I quickly close the tab on and never visit again. Agreed that it’s truly maddening at this point.

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Alcedine
Alcedine

@Burk @manton I always deny all the cookies and get rage angry at websites that make it difficult or a rough process. It’s made me a much more unhappy internetter over all. 😕

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dfj
dfj

@manton I couldn’t agree more. It’s so bad, especially with all the dark UI patterns that result in people accepting cookies just to make the dialogue go away (I do this all the time).

I wish the regulations had put the onus of user friendly cookie policies on browser vendors. I feel like there’s so many advantages to solving this problem in browser…I can’t believe we went the opposite direction.

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cn
cn

@manton the real question being what is “legitimate interest”? 🤔

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MrHenko
MrHenko

@leonp I disagree. The problem is that politicians doesn’t now how the internet works, and they don’t really care either, so they make laws that just doesn’t make sense and/or doesn’t work in practice. See also the “link tax” proposed by the EU.

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kjz
kjz

@MrHenko No. The fact that GA, trackers etc. rely on obfuscation in order to get round a reasonable law that says you can’t track what website visitors do without their consent, is not the fault of politicians. It’s the fault of Google and the million and one shady ad companies, and the fact we expect to not pay for content.

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MrHenko
MrHenko

@leonp Again, I disagree. I’m not saying that the ad companies aren’t making it worse with their UIs for this, but even when the law works perfectly it means every single website that uses cookies in any kind of way must throw up a dialog of some sort which will lead to users being trained at ignoring them and just clicking “allow”.

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warner
warner

@manton tell creators to delete GA for cookie-free analytics (e.g.). Meanwhile, use www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu

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