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It seems some folk are so desperate to try Roam that they’re willing to pay lots of money to buy beta accounts off other users. Madness.

@stefp seriously? Tell me where I can sell mine off, because honestly while I like a lot about it, there is much more I don’t like about it and I’m certainly not in the market for paying $15/month for that ‘privalege’.

@jack @kaa I got an account about six weeks ago but didn't really see what the fuss was about. Tried it again a few days ago and it just clicked with me. $15/month is too much but reading between the lines I think there will be other options. They need to hire a good PR person though :)

@stefp See when it clicked I thought it was brilliant, but then I had a look at the creator and was totally not on board.

@kaa I know what you mean. He seems very arrogant needs to learn a bit of humility.

@stefp @kaa I do think competitors, some free, will tick off enough of the boxes for many people. I'm kind of upset by how well Roam and I get along, though, because right now I fully intend to pay the $15/month. They still need to deal with the "Conor Problem". I think he's smart, has a vision, and has been thinking about the problems he wants to solve long enough that he's earned a little of his cockiness simply based on how much he's gotten right in the first go-round. However, for the sake of the product I think he should dial it down a few notches. All things being equal, I'd go with a different product simply because I'm not fond of Roam's author. Trouble is, right now, all things are not equal.

@jack I agree with pretty much all of this. I’ve been trying competitors and none really come close although I think TiddlyWiki is beautifully simple and almost perfect. Maybe after a month or two more of using Roam $15 will seem worth paying.

@stefp well when you’re called Jesus - you might get carried away .. at 15 bucks a month ... I need to know a. Lot more.

@JohnPhilpin It's something you really have to try yourself to get the feel of but the beta is locked down rigt now.

@jack For now I am going to keep my thoughts and notes in Drafts and then wait for Roam and Conor to both mature a little more before I even consider sending money their way.

@kaa looks very similar to Workflowy. Did not like the beta sign up process and the questions asked were laughable lol

@Munish yup, only it gets a few things better (mainly on the inter-linking side of things), but yeah once you dive into the world of online outliners there is a TON of options out there. I’m sure there is a suitable one. I used to love tiddlywiki but it seems to have morphed into something else recently... and I would need to dive into redesigning the hell out of it because it’s too noisy

@kaa that makes sense. Good luck with it.

@kaa Have you seen obsidian.md yet? I got into this beta. It's an note app that lets you write markdown notes and connect them with links and backlinks. Everything stays on your computer. It's still quite basic and needs a lot more work but the important functionality is all there.

@stefp never heard of it. It does however seem to answer a lot of my questions. the premium versions seem inline with what I would call fair...so far I like it. The thing is I don't understand the app? Is it a multi-platform app or a website? The site doesn't really say much.

@kaa It's an an app like Drafts that you write notes in and save to a "vault" or folder. I think it's multi-platform because my mac version is a not very mac-like but there's a long way to go. It has potential to be very good.

@stefp ah I see. Mac or Windows only at the moment I guess.

@kaa I just checked and there is a Linux version too.

@kaa Besides Obsidean, you should also have a look at Zettlr. I am in between both solutions right now, as they both are build upon a simple folder with text documents.

@jeroensangers Looks pretty interesting. Does anyone have any other option for a single html file style notebook like Tiddlywiki, but not Tiddlywiki which doesn’t really work for me for several reasons - I wouldn’t mind something pretty streamlined and minimal...

@kaa Most TiddlyWiki alternatives are actually built on top of TiddlyWiki. My current favorite is Stroll: giffmex.org/experimen...