jack
jack

Most WordPress sites that are about WordPress are hellish landscapes of popups, sticky headers, SEO desperation, and a cluster of other things ruining the experience, and I’m sure they’re all “available as a plugin”

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@jack yep

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SimonWoods
SimonWoods

@jack This is exactly why I hope to never see plugins for Micro.blog.

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jack
jack

@simonwoods Oh I don't know. Could we hold out hope that the use and type of plugins we'd see for Micro.blog would exercise the same restraint and good taste as that of the most of the posts here? (I must be feeling especially optimistic this morning). :)

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pratik
pratik

@jack Death by plugins is what happened to me on WordPress. While being extremely flexible, using WordPress makes you want to try to extend it as much as possible until the whole thing creaks to a halt.

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SimonWoods
SimonWoods

@jack maybe we need a curated and closely maintained store of some sort ;)

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jack
jack

@simonwoods I think you're onto something! Oh wait... :)

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jack
jack

@pratik I'm trying very hard to resist the urge to pile on the plugins myself. It's working...mostly.

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jsonbecker
jsonbecker

@simonwoods oh I think that's a bit short sighted. A lot I do requires custom theme work, and to attract the long tail you need flexibility that doesn't require writing code. It may need some stewardship, but I want to point people to a plug in and not "here's how you add this shortcode I wrote" or rely on Manton for any feature.

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manton
manton

@simonwoods I might as well pre-announce this… I have been working on plug-ins. 🙂 I’ll share more after WWDC. But it’s a great point about SEO and clutter. I want M.b sites to load quickly and not be user-hostile with popups. You should have to work really hard to make a M.b site terrible. (This thread has definitely made me think. Thanks everyone.)

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jack
jack

@manton

You should have to work really hard to make a M.b site terrible

The correct approach, IMO :)

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Tales
Tales

@manton Oooh! A challenge! :-p

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manton
manton

@Tales Haha. NooooOoooo.

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SteveSawczyn
SteveSawczyn

@jack It's definitely a problem with WordPress. In my case, there's usually something I want to do, but I'm not technical enough to do it, so I look for a plugin that does that thing ... sort of. But it's not exactly right, so I find another plugin. End result is a bunch of plugins, none of which are exactly what I wanted, but all of which create clutter and other issues that I am not technical enough to fix ... and so the circle begins again. There are things I wish MB would let me do, but what makes it a huge win IMO is that it's just simple and I can stay focused on blogging and not plugin management.

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philly
philly

@jack Like many, that's more or less how I ended up here for my personal blog. In the last week, I've been working on setting up Ghost for one of my professional sites, it's unbelievalbe the difference between it and WordPress. Loving Ghost so far, even if it's less plug-and-play and requires a bit more effort for management on the server side.

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rom
rom

@pratik @manton this is exactly why I opted to Micro.blog instead of Wordpress.

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rom
rom

@philly @jack @manton same here. I have tried Wordpress, hosted my own, tried and hosted Ghost, but I ended up with Micro.blog. Would be nice to know that there are things to come, but please -- a thousand No's for every Yes - invidio.us/watch

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DrKnittyGritty
DrKnittyGritty

@SteveSawczyn @manton I completely agree! I was excited with my Wordpress site and spent a huge amount of time setting up the site. In the end, I realized that I was (actually am) trying to understand the ‘technical’ side of website building and having less time on generating content. M.B. gives me the simplicity of, let’s say, Instagram, but the pride and joy of having my own domain with a network to reach out to.

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manton
manton

@DrKnittyGritty @SteveSawczyn Thank you! Glad to hear you like it.

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SteveSawczyn
SteveSawczyn

@DrKnittyGritty very well said, captures my thoughts exactly. :-)

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SimonWoods
SimonWoods

@manton This got me so excited that I'm using a well-worn Surface Pro just to get my basic work going again. 😂

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