@crossingthethreshold From helping an entire conference start the day with meditation to signing up to the new shiny social media, within the space of a day. 😂
@manton my partner is an artist and Glass doesn’t appeal as it over-focuses on photography.
For artists & others who care about indie social, I’m still recommending Mastodon or Pixelfed.
There’s a longer discussion here about how I’d feel more comfortable if Mb 1) open sourced* the server and/or 2) fully participated in the ActivityPub fediverse.
*a non commercial open license like Prosperity or IndieCC might be a fit.
@boris Good point about artists. For ActivityPub, what more could we do? We should be fully compatible now.
@simonwoods Ah, paradoxes. A good night’s sleep works wonders. I have just deleted Glass from my phone, and I never actually got to the end of the waitlist…so I’ve no idea what I am missing.
@manton I find Mb very blog / notification channel focused. So updates get pushed to Masto (which I use, thank you!), but this chat here is not connected.
I am not suggesting that you SHOULD do this, but essentially become a first class member of the Fediverse.
I should be able to use an AP client — like the new Mastodon iOS one — and use my Mb account anywhere. Including posting, which of course would mean supporting AP in addition to Micropub.
@manton I suppose there are different types of silos (degrees of silo-ness?) but Glass makes it really easy and obvious how to export every photo from your account. I don’t think a well-defined self-contained network is inherently bad, and in fact makes many things more obvious and easily understood. Conceptual simplicity is a good thing.
@manton Even the fact that Glass — for now, at least — only supports Sign In With Apple as the only authentication is a win for simplicity (with obvious tradeoffs for portability and universal access).
@crossingthethreshold I am both happy to see potentially better social platforms exist and content with never joining another one for the rest of my life. Happy where I am, happy with my digital life being constrained and focused, and happy to contribute from a well-considered distance.
@fahrni To me, micro.blog is like cooking in your own kitchen. Glass is like eating at a restaurant. There’s a place in the world for both.
@boris Currently we push replies to Mastodon if you @-mention a user on Mastodon. There is also the limitation that not everyone on Micro.blog has (or wants) ActivityPub enabled. As for compatibility with the Mastodon iOS app... I assume that uses the Mastodon API, which isn't ActivityPub at all.
@manton How would Sign In With Apple work with domain names? I think supporting domain names is incredibly fiddly.
@boris I guess in summary: I'm not sure that going all-in on Mastodon is right for Micro.blog. But if there are other things we can do to improve the ActivityPub support we have, I will definitely look at that. Thanks!
@gruber Agreed about varying levels of silo-ness. Also, because Glass just shipped, it's too early to say what limitations are by design and what they'll eventually get to, so I'm trying not to overreact to version 1.0.
@manton That’s a solid list.
The web client is going to be the most important bit. As much as I’d love to have a native Mac client that’s the least important client behind Web, Android, and Windows if you were to prioritize based on user base size.
@manton like most of the major AP apps, it uses OAuth. I’m playing a little loose with the Masto/AP distinction — there is enough capability that various front ends and clients interoperate around the basics.
I understand your reluctance, but it makes Mb a bit of a stand-alone. You’re at the “center” of a bunch of IndieWeb stuff … but as it stands, there aren’t viable IW federated servers. AP’s federation is the closest we have.
Anyway, thanks for the discussion!
@crossingthethreshold glad my provocative questioning led to @gruber & other big brains clarifying that silos are on a spectrum of open-ness (with even M.b not even at full tilt). Still, with my starving artist budget and preference for video > stills (already sub Vimeo), I'll sit out Glass and look forward to @manton gaining inspo for Sunlit.