@manton The truth is imho that most people stayed right where they were. The things they care about are more superficial. Another example, Musk had to misbehave a lot before I started hating my Tesla. But I still drive it, because none of the other EVs are anywhere near as good and I already have all this money sunk into it. Should I pay big bucks so I’m not driving around in a fascist car? Well I decided not yet, not until there’s something out there that I lust after. But I don’t have body work done on the damage I do to it, and there are a lot of dents on this baby. Remarkable actually.