jsanchez
jsanchez

Just got home from work and made myself a beautiful coffee with my Bialetti Moka Express, such an underrated coffee utensil and it just makes coffee that tastes so good! 📷

Coffee in a glass cup made with the Bialetti Moka Express

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jean
jean

@jsanchez I love the Moka Express. If I can wean myself away from the addictingly easy Nespresso, I would go back to the simple espresso pot on the stove. But not today.

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yorrike
yorrike

@macgenie @jsanchez I've been using an Aeropress for years. It's easier than a Nespresso in my opinion, and there’s no horrific environmental waste - especially if you have a coffee grinder. Takes me about 90 seconds if the water is near temperature.

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yorrike
yorrike

@macgenie @jsanchez Mind you, if I understand it correctly, you North Americans aren't big on electric kettles, so that may slow you down.

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martinfeld
martinfeld

@yorrike You make a great point about environmental waste due to Nespresso. I stopped using our machine at home until we found biodegradable pods at our local supermarket. They break down after use within the same time as an orange peel. Now we alternate between AeroPress and these compatible pods, depending on what we feel like.

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martinfeld
martinfeld

@macgenie Talking about coffee on a stove, do you enjoy Turkish coffee?

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jean
jean

@martinfeld I love a really strong coffee, but I associate Turkish coffee with being too sweet for me (I drink coffee with no milk or sugar) and too cloudy.

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jean
jean

@martinfeld PS. Please share the link to your third-party Nespresso pods. 😇

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crossingthethreshold
crossingthethreshold

@martinfeld Yes please share the link for your biodegradable Nespresso pods.
cc @macgenie

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martinfeld
martinfeld

@macgenie @crossingthethreshold República makes and sells the biodegradable coffee pods. It is an Australian company, however, so I'm not sure what that means for both of you. If it doesn't offer overseas products or shipping, then it may at least lead you to other alternatives.

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martinfeld
martinfeld

@macgenie Fair enough! I don't care for sugar in my coffee either, although I do like milk. My standard order is a strong flat white. Turkish coffee is only ever consumed when I visit my baba. 😄 (To be clear, she's North Macedonian and they call it Turkish coffee, however, if you speak to a Greek, they will call it Greek coffee, haha.)

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crossingthethreshold
crossingthethreshold

@martinfeld @macgenie With a quick search I found Woken, which appears to specialize in biodegrable Nespresso pods. They only have three blends, and two of them are out of stock! Keep looking I guess...

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yorrike
yorrike

@martinfeld Like when I was visiting Greece I bought some “Greek Delight” - you know the famous Greek Delight, the rose-flavoured jelly confection? (I’m also part Greek, although my Greek ancestors may have also been part Italian… as they had the Italian version of a Greek surname).

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jean
jean

@martinfeld @crossingthethreshold 😭 It looks like they are Australia only. My sister lives in NZ, and she's the one who turned me onto Nespresso, but it looks like they don't ship there either.

I am very aware of the incorrectness of my Nespresso addiction. I do not like the Aeropress. I recycle the pods. And I am an old leftie who has been boycotting Nestle since college. Everyone has their price, and evidently mine is a fuss-free shot of espresso in the morning. ☹️

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martinfeld
martinfeld

@macgenie @crossingthethreshold I totally understand the issue with Nestlé. Modern life seems to be a constant struggle and balancing act. Let's save the planet but wait... how else can we get to Point B without a car?

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martinfeld
martinfeld

@yorrike Hahahahaha of course they called it 'Greek delight’. A lot of pride there! I hear this sort of stuff every so often because my home town, Wollongong, has the largest North Macedonian population in the world outside of North Macedonia, and the country has had a long feud with the Greeks about Macedonian history and identity. It's pretty tiring. The one thing that they agree on is that they don't like Turkish people. Fortunately, no one in my family or my wife's family buys into that rubbish.

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martinfeld
martinfeld

@crossingthethreshold @macgenie Yes! Keep looking! I'm honestly surprised that there aren't more…

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jean
jean

@martinfeld I hate vanilla. I want the strongest available plain flavor. Time to start thinking of pals who are coming to WWDC so I can find a mule.

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matpacker
matpacker

@martinfeld just had to comment on your Macedonian population, we have a large population here in Newcastle as well. There's a local football club, when you go to their home ground, literally all the advertising hoarding is Macedonian Lawyer, Macedonian Butcher, Macedonian Super Annuation, etc.

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martinfeld
martinfeld

@macgenie If only I could do so! Sigh…

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martinfeld
martinfeld

@matpacker HAHAHA yes! It's like no other nation exists on Earth. I visited the country with my family to meet relatives and most conversations somehow involved Macedonia as a topic.

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martinfeld
martinfeld

@kulturnation @matpacker That's exactly right and also the reason why it is now known as North Macedonia. :)

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yorrike
yorrike

@martinfeld The generations-long grudges betwen European neighbours are ridiculous and petty, and seem especially so in majority immigrant nations like Australia and Aotearoa.

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martinfeld
martinfeld

@yorrike You're absolutely right. The people who really amuse me though are the children of migrants (in countries like ours) who continue those grudges.

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johnjohnston
johnjohnston

@macgenie @jsanchez i used to be aeropress on weekdays and split a three cup moka with my wife at the weekends. Then my wife stopped drinking coffee. I miss the few minutes waiting for moka. Was time to read Rachel Roddy’s cooking column on Saturday and a few micro.blog posts on Sunday. Need to buy 2-cup moka😉

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jsanchez
jsanchez

@johnjohnston It’s just delicious, as long as you get some nice beans obviously. I must read that column from Rachael Roddy, I’m a big fan of her.

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jsanchez
jsanchez

@yorrike Never had a coffee using a Aeropress, What is the main difference in taste if you compare it to moka or a cafetière? Very intrigued!

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yorrike
yorrike

@jsanchez it doesn’t have the thickness or crema of an espresso, although I’d compare it with a well made Moka. I haven’t had a skill to make a great coffee from a Moka, but I don’t think I’ve had a bad coffee from an Aeropress. They’re reasonably cheap, so may be worth giving it a go. Alternatively, depending where you are, some of the more hardcore coffee cafes offer it as an option.

I have a conical grinder. I grind my beans to a little finer than espresso, use the inverted method, let it sit for ~1 minute and then press it into a cup. Sometimes I’ll spend that minute warming up some milk to put in if I’m having a flat white/latte instead of a straight black coffee.

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jeremycherfas
jeremycherfas

@yorrike Sit for a minute? I'm more like sit for 15-20 seconds. It isn't too acid? Or maybe you like that. I've never really experimented with longer, so I know what I'll be doing later this morning.

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yorrike
yorrike

@jeremycherfas Yeah. A minute-ish. Sometimes I get impatient and pour sooner. I haven’t done back-to-back tastings, so I don’t know if I’m wasting my time or not.

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nibl
nibl

@macgenie It wasn’t the George Clooney nespresso ads then?

It would surprise me if there weren’t any biodegradable nespresso alternatives available in the US. I do believe I’ve heard someone mention them on a podcast.

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renem
renem

@jsanchez I’ve the Bialetti for quite a while but I was never able to get a good tasting cup of coffee out of it. I make loads of coffee with a French press or AeroPress or filter, all taste good. So it can’t be the wrong beans or something.

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jsanchez
jsanchez

@yorrike Sounds like I will be buying an Aeropress soon ;) There's a coffee shop near me that offers coffee made with them so I will give it ago too there. I've a conical grinder too, they're the best, specially to do a little bit of exercise in the morning. Thanks for the tips!

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jsanchez
jsanchez

@renem I think it depends on many things, the type of coffee that you use for it it's important, how the beans are ground, the rubber of the moka pot and also how it's made, I've learn that if you make it with hot water to start tates nicer than with cold water. I will also don't let it sit, once it's made just transfer it into a cup and enjoy! Could be an acquired taste too, I love the cafetiere and filter too and I guess also depends the day and time you want different things isn't it?

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johnjohnston
johnjohnston

@jsanchez Rachel Roddy is in the Guardian every Saturday. first thing I read in the paper.

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renem
renem

@jsanchez thanks for the hot water tip. I’ll give this a try. I use my AeroPress during workdays in the morning and a big French press coffee on the weekends.

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jeremycherfas
jeremycherfas

@jsanchez never heard the hot water thing. I wonder why that would be. The water doesn’t come into contact with the grounds till it has boiled. Maybe the heat is affecting the grounds.

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jsanchez
jsanchez

@johnjohnston Me too, you should follow her instagram account, it’s lovely!

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johnjohnston
johnjohnston

@jsanchez thanks, done and I am already hungry 😋

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