JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

The Spice Girls have been asked to play Glastonbury

The world must have ended last night.

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Bruce
Bruce

@JohnPhilpin Well, the U.K. is in Purgatory until Halloween. 🙃

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@Bruce and then it’s over? PHEW!

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stefp
stefp

@JohnPhilpin Well it’s a fairly mainstream festival now and I don’t think anyone actually goes because of the acts. It sells out before any bill is announced.

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@stefp blind leading the blind ....

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Bruce
Bruce

@JohnPhilpin Well, once N. Ireland and Scotland leave, how much will it be the United Kingdom and how much just England with Wales considering whether they want to stick with the super functional government in Westminster? 🙃

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@Bruce if Brexit does happen ... I sense the break up of the UK for the obvious reasons ... maybe even Wales leaves - though they too did of course vote to leave the EU.... at that point Westminster goes back to being an English Parliament .... and the English people will once more be represented - hopefully by a different set of idiots to the current set of idiots - but definitely they will have their own representation .... something I believe contributed to the vote to begin with.

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Bruce
Bruce

@JohnPhilpin Yep. Devolution for everyone except the English was probably a mistake. If Brexit is avoided, hopefully Westminster will address that. 🤞

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Bruce
Bruce

@johnphilpin The numbers are very different, but it seems a bit like the argument that DC should be a state.

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@Bruce IMHO totally different ... equivalent of DC would be London... not England ? London DOES have its own Govt ... Sadiq Kahn being the current ‘top bod’.

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@Bruce we probably need more than crossed fingers ... we need them to wake up - get off auto pilot and start working for the people rather than themselves.

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Bruce
Bruce

@JohnPhilpin Different scale, but the Federal Government is ultimately in direct control of DC. Until the 1970s, there was no democratically elected government. Congress simply appointed a small board. The local courts are part of the Federal Judiciary (so during the last shutdown, the city council had to pass a special law so people could get legally married). Even today, Congress can simply overturn local laws (which works great when a GOP controlled Congress wants to earn points by screwing with a liberal city with a large Black population). And because DC is not a state, they don’t even have any representation in Congress to argue against it when the GOP loons decide to do so.

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smokey
smokey

@Bruce @JohnPhilpin Worse, it’s taxation without representation. DC residents pay federal taxes while having no (voting) representation in Congress.

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@smokey ha .. as a green card owner who has paid my federal taxes for close to 30 years ... that resonates ... and the second section in that Wikipedia article re the John Major quote tickled my funny bone ..

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smokey
smokey

@JohnPhilpin DC residents of course being US citizens, so constitutionally entitled to representation when subject to taxation, whereas green-card holders and other legal residents (in non-DC areas) have representation even though they can’t vote for said representation, but, yeah.

Also, haha on the Major bit ;-)

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