"Allow For One Month”

@jsnell next iteration: “allow until Halloween”

@jsnell 😐

@jsnell I mean, that is *better*, but still not okay.

I love my MacBook Pro hardware but am increasingly annoyed by macOS. The screws have been turning for years now and I'm starting to think I want off this ride.

@jsnell Um, no way to bypass?

@jsnell You’re almost there, Apple. Now add “Don’t ask again” and you’re done 🙂

@jsnell It's like they took inspiration from from spam “unsubscribe” links and then made it worse because unsubscribing from spam usually lasts longer than a month.

@jsnell Somebody at Apple didn’t quite understand the assignment.

@jsnell there should be a "mode" in macOS that you explicitly turn on to enable "expert mode, don't nag me with these alerts". I'm serious.

@jsnell maybe each successive beta we get more time, eventually with the launch feature of allow permanently

@jsnell their deep loathing of Epic forced them to jump right over “once a fortnight.”

@jsnell „cancel or allow?“

@jsnell Small moves, Ellie. Small moves.

@jsnell
Is there a go get screwed option?

@jsnell been meaning to write in but for those of us in corporate America I have teams, zoom, webex, and google meet calls. That’s 4 apps that I will constantly have to do that with. Also do you have to restart the app because when you’re setting up a new Mac at first request you have to quit the app and reopen after giving permission for it to work.

@jsnell wonder if this won’t be shown if Zoom adopts the new macOS 15 APIs “requestSharingOfWindow” https://developer.apple.com/documentation/macos-release-notes/macos-15-release-notes#New-Features

FWIW, this image does say “is requesting to bypass the system private window picker" -- which is basically saying, this app uses an old API and not the new, more secure API.

Which is fine I guess for a developer beta but... that's about punishing the user for the developer's sin. Not cool.

@davemurdock almost certainly not, and this is a dev beta, but: users still need to be given ultimate authority and also not be abused in order to shame the developer for being a laggard

@jsnell but, Zoom isn't at their first "questionable issue" in the last few years... Apple might not be cool but Zoom is being lazy too.

@numericcitizen Didn’t Microsoft Windows use to have that?

@jsnell Ah yes, a nice riff on the “Yes” or “Ask later” prompts.

@numericcitizen my understanding is that Zoom is actually among the most attentive developers regarding this API change 🤷🏻‍♂️

@jsnell for sure, not arguing against that, I was just wondering what the end game is for screen sharing because even a monthly modal blocker is crazy

What I found super confusing is that when I click to open settings from that dialog it seems to always show as enabled for the app… so is it just enabled forever without me explicitly doing something?

@odd yes...

@jsnell @numericcitizen I’m not questioning this but if that’s the case, why this message? Is there a bug in the new API?

@jsnell I have yesterday's developer beta of 15.1 and the latest version of Zoom…it's still telling me one week.

@joekissell mine is from the 15.0 beta stream 🤷🏻‍♂️

@jsnell Interesting. I wonder what that means.

@jsnell 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@joekissell probably that I'm one build ahead of you

@jsnell Apple “hiring” the users to pressure the developers.

@jsnell sure, but Keyboard Maestro will get the same warning presumably because you, the user, is picking the window or screen via means that are not the Apple “private window picker” thing. So new or old API isn't going to resolve this.

@jsnell @joesteel
“You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or allow.”

@jsnell Fortunately most of Apple’s user base will absolutely know what the “system private window picker” is and calibrate their risk assessment and decision making accordingly.

@peternlewis yep, it's not great, please file feedback about this

@peternlewis
Many of us are using your fantastic app to automate headless Mac mini servers which this interaction is going to kill. How should we campaign?

@sondek report the issue via Apple’s Feedback app, and complain in any public space (write or comment on articles). Pointing out how the issue will affect you is far more useful than any theoretical complaints I might make.

@jsnell Indo like your idea (if I understood it correctly) from an Upgrade episode of having a sort of standardized grid interface in settings for key entitlements like this that lets users see applications and set longer term (perhaps even permanent) durations. Make a useful UI that helps users make educated decisions not a UI that encourages just clicking to get through it.

I’m fine if ‘permanent’ means ‘until the app is updated’ as well.

@jsnell I have. I hope folks are reading them.