Only now that I’m changing my email host from ProtonMail that I can see how they’re… like, a bad company. The many ways in which they make it difficult to leave… and putting exporting behind a paywall? Dick move.

@simonwoods You could run the IMAP proxy and migrate that way or is more than that blocked?

@mcg Maybe…? IDK Proton don’t seem fond of allowing any good access. TBH I think my days of dealing with these fiddly pieces of tech are done. Especially when it’s in what little spare time that I have.

@mpmilestogo It’s like when Apple has massive banners selling their phones on the back of privacy whilst failing to offer full encryption for iCloud backups… like, cool you’ve got morals but your product needs to actually match that.

@simonwoods yep been there. What you moving too ?

@Munish I had three uses: personal, logins, and TIL. Personal and logins will be split between iCloud and Gmail, whilst TIL will no longer have a dedicated address.

@pimoore @timapple @simonwoods been using it for quite some time as well. So far, no issues. I hope that you can use it to generate Hide My Email addresses as well. :)

@simonwoods 👍🏽

@rom That’s certainly how I think of it, though I’m sure they’re covered by a mixture of terms of use and their legal department. In the end they’ve just discouraged me from my previous stance of avoiding the big silo providers, so even their big moral stance has taken a hit even if they’re not aware of it.

@pimoore @timapple @rom I’m not using iCloud custom domains at the moment. Might give it a go, though I’m iffy about trusting Apple with that kind of service so it’ll likely be with an experimental address rather than anything serious.

@timapple I agree with that to a degree. It’s also been important to me that I think more carefully about how I manage the information from the messages themselves. The worst habit I work to avoid is abandoning messages that have the potential to be important, or worse are clearly important; if it’s important enough, I need to grab that information and put it somewhere more reliable than my inbox.

@pimoore @simonwoods @timapple @rom I’ve switched over to Apple’s custom email domain and everything is working well, so far. They’ve got a well-earned reputation for trouble with internet services, so I’m staying vigilant. My needs for this personal email account are pretty basic though, I wouldn’t switch over my work email (not that corporate IT would allow it anyway)

@simonwoods Ugh, that’s disappointing. I’ve been actually looking into shifting one of my work emails to them because they seem to have better HIPAA setup compared for my needs. Sadly my options for such hosting are very limited.

@simonwoods @timapple @pimoore it is just starting. :) I have a new domain hosted there, which I purchased recently. That domain registrar rabbit hole is real. :)

Now I am just waiting for an old alias-only domain to expire. Too many domains.

@timapple @maique I have all of them hahah FastMail, ProtonMail, Apple, and SimpleLogin. Almost forget that DuckDuckGo alias. :)

I wish Privacy is available outside of the US, too.