Only now that I’m changing my email host from ProtonMail that I can see how they’re… like, a bad company. The many ways in which they make it difficult to leave… and putting exporting behind a paywall? Dick move.
@mcg Maybe...? IDK Proton don't seem fond of allowing any good access. TBH I think my days of dealing with these fiddly pieces of tech are done. Especially when it's in what little spare time that I have.
@mpmilestogo It's like when Apple has massive banners selling their phones on the back of privacy whilst failing to offer full encryption for iCloud backups... like, cool you've got morals but your product needs to actually match that.
@Munish I had three uses: personal, logins, and TIL. Personal and logins will be split between iCloud and Gmail, whilst TIL will no longer have a dedicated address.
@simonwoods I take it you’re using iCloud for custom domain email? Last I read it was still a little on the buggy side.
@pimoore @timapple @simonwoods been using it for quite some time as well. So far, no issues. I hope that you can use it to generate Hide My Email addresses as well. :)
@simonwoods it is always best to call them out and make them change their policy. Isn't that extortion - holding your data hostage and demanding money?
@rom That's certainly how I think of it, though I'm sure they're covered by a mixture of terms of use and their legal department. In the end they've just discouraged me from my previous stance of avoiding the big silo providers, so even their big moral stance has taken a hit even if they're not aware of it.
@simonwoods @timapple @rom I might do the same, email is a key service that I wouldn’t want fucking up at an inopportune time.
@timapple I agree with that to a degree. It's also been important to me that I think more carefully about how I manage the information from the messages themselves. The worst habit I work to avoid is abandoning messages that have the potential to be important, or worse are clearly important; if it's important enough, I need to grab that information and put it somewhere more reliable than my inbox.
@pimoore @simonwoods @timapple @rom I’ve switched over to Apple’s custom email domain and everything is working well, so far. They’ve got a well-earned reputation for trouble with internet services, so I’m staying vigilant. My needs for this personal email account are pretty basic though, I wouldn’t switch over my work email (not that corporate IT would allow it anyway)
@timapple @pilchuck @simonwoods Agree 100% that email will never truly be private, if that’s what you need best look elsewhere. Interesting note about the blacklisting of servers, what’s your impression of FastMail?
@pimoore Never noticed any issue with Fastmail, in over a decade. They had some downtime a couple of weeks ago, huge DDoS going on, but that was a first. Super reliable, lots of features, decently priced. That’s my take 😊
@maique @pimoore Ditto! I've been using Fastmail for a few years, no complaints at all. I have no illusions (I don't think) about email security: once that message goes out on the intertubes, there's not much more that your email service can do. But if you want a relatively secure alternative to the biggies, I recommend it wholeheartedly.
@JMaxB @maique FastMail and 1Password’s recent integration really has caught my attention about going back to 1PW so I can take advantage. With that of course would be sticking with FastMail as opposed to iCloud. The flip side to that is I don’t see myself needing to sign up for a tonne more services, at least ones in which I’d be wanting to hide my email address anyway.
The other thing I consider with 1PW is with their recent move away from native and into a browser extension, does that potentially open up any security vulnerabilities. With the app before, as well as with iCloud Keychain, they’re both separate entities that merely pass the information to your browser. However, because they were using iOS built-in password sharing mechanisms they were much more secure. (At least that’s my understanding)
@timapple I think Privacy is not available to non-US users. Would love to try but, thankfully, fintech is widespread in Europe, we have other companies doing the same, minus the integration. I’d rather have Apple Pay everywhere, does pretty much the same 😊
@simonwoods Ugh, that’s disappointing. I’ve been actually looking into shifting one of my work emails to them because they seem to have better HIPAA setup compared for my needs. Sadly my options for such hosting are very limited.
@maique Absolutely, if I didn’t have to periodically insert my debit card to re-authenticate for tap-to-pay, I wouldn’t even need to have it on me.
@maique Yeah it’s a security feature so that if someone gets a hold of your card they can’t just endlessly rack up tap charges since they wouldn’t need the PIN. There are both tap amount limits as well as the requirement to periodically insert your card and enter the PIN to restart a new round of taps. I’m of mixed opinion whether I like this or not… good for security, but a pain in the ass otherwise.
@simonwoods @timapple @pimoore it is just starting. :) I have a new domain hosted there, which I purchased recently. That domain registrar rabbit hole is real. :)
Now I am just waiting for an old alias-only domain to expire. Too many domains.