manton
manton

The ads on TV for Humane’s pin are pretty effective. I don’t expect much success for the first version of the pin, but I do think they’re on to something if they can keep iterating. Best comparison is the Newton — a little ahead of its time.

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patrickrhone
patrickrhone

@manton Hmmm… I’d mentally written it off until you brought up the Newton comparison. Something to chew on there.

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patrickrhone
patrickrhone

@manton Especially as one thinks about the idea that this is “gen 1” so, like the Newton, it may go from interesting to amazing in just a couple of generations.

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manton
manton

@patrickrhone Exactly. This feels like something that will be very interesting in a couple generations. Hopefully they haven’t gambled everything on the first product being a hit.

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manton
manton

@Ddanielson Yes, the ultimate goal for Apple Vision Pro (Air?) should be more like glasses. That is 10+ years out, though, in my opinion.

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pratik
pratik

@Ddanielson @manton Meta’s Ray Ban glasses are already there, at least for taking photos & video

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odd
odd

@Ddanielson @manton @pratik Fighter pilots have data on their helmet glass, don’t they? If they can easily and nonchalantly switch between a normal pair of glasses-like and an information vision, and also have a mix, that would be more like it. I think the cameras will be a hot topic for a long time no matter what. People don’t like stealth filming or snapshotting.

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patrickrhone
patrickrhone

@manton Yeah. This already feels a bit floppy to me. But we shall see.

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Denny
Denny

@odd @Ddanielson @manton @pratik Quite a few folks have commented that they think a future version of the Vision Pro will be much more like glasses for everyday wear. I don’t see that happening. Ever. Not without cutting back on the features in a drastic way. The version 1 feature set relies on hardware that can only get so small. Between the processors, fans, cameras, sensors… As long as Apple positions it as a “spatial computer” it will remain a headset to be used more like a computer.

The Meta Ray Bans represent a very different product, far more limited in scope, hence the more normal looking form factor.

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manton
manton

@Denny Yeah, that’s why I’ve been saying 10 years at minimum to have something more glasses-like, but maybe even that is optimistic. The current Vision Pro design is amazing but probably not what people want.

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jarrod
jarrod

@manton Is this one of them? Are there others?

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renevanbelzen
renevanbelzen

@manton I guess that’s a bit of rose-colored glasses there; the Apple Newton was an utter failure, much too expensive and too early. As for the pin, AI just isn’t there yet. It needs to be 100% reliable if it’s the only interface, or you’re better of using your phone instead. With the current disinterest in artificial general intelligence (see the openAI debacle) that perfect reliability seems farther away than ever.

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manton
manton

@jarrod Yep, that’s it. I think there’s only one, or maybe a 30- and 60-second cut of the same ad.

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manton
manton

@renevanbelzen I don’t think 100% reliable is a requirement, just as it isn’t for Siri or Alexa. But I also don’t think these devices need to completely replace a smartphone.

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