manton
manton

I’m seeing lots of Bluesky takes that are a variation of: “Oh jeez, we just moved from Twitter to Mastodon, now there’s another new thing?” But indie microblogging is about moving away from centralized platforms to blogs and open web-friendly protocols. Anything in that spirit should be explored.

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fgtech
fgtech

@manton Agreed wholeheartedly! The idea that “everyone must do this thing now” is a false premise. One size does not fit all and a healthy web should reflect that.

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tchambers@indieweb.social
tchambers@indieweb.social

@manton

Yes. And DEEPLY hoping and willing to support any efforts at two-way bridges between the two decentralized, federated platforms.

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pratik
pratik

@manton Does it matter who is leading those efforts? It's less about another new thing and more about Dorsey.

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pratik
pratik

@mikehaynes Being one of the primary funders and being one of the three on board, he has more control that I'm comfortable with especially seeing how he handled Twitter.

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VirginiaMurr@mastodon.social
VirginiaMurr@mastodon.social

@manton

Co-founded by the guy who co-created Twitter.

The guy who fervently supported Musk's takeover of Twitter.

The guy who didn't say a single word when Musk attacked the guy's long-time employees publicly (leading to death threats in some cases).

That guy's new thing?

No thanks.

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brian_wolf@mastodon.social
brian_wolf@mastodon.social

@manton Off topic - Any word on when the book will be released?

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renevanbelzen
renevanbelzen

@manton I suppose the implementation is what matters most. Moderation is key, as are firmly enforced principles of mutual respect and civil behavior.

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pratik
pratik

@mikehaynes True but then again, there are plenty of other places that are definitely not his company in any way.

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manton
manton

@pratik @VirginiaMurr I get the concern. Bluesky is being led by Jay Graber, though. I think Jack Dorsey is checked out and in Nostr-land. He is on the board, though.

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@manton Because for most people that distinction is only technical, if at all they’re aware of it. Even I’m not curious enough about BlueSky to want to use it because I already have my Micro.blog.

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vitriolix@mastodon.social
vitriolix@mastodon.social

@manton definitely watching closely to see if B.S. has anything to offer users over Mastodon, so far I'm not seeing it.

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vitriolix@mastodon.social
vitriolix@mastodon.social

@jasonekratz I think protocol is important, but so is UI, culture, etc. if bluesky really are a good steward of an open spec it's definitely got my attention, but I'm reflexively skeptical of standards pushed by one org

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manton
manton

@brian_wolf Everything is on the web at book.micro.blog, but I'm still trying to update the final draft before we do the ePub and print version. It's close.

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VirginiaMurr@mastodon.social
VirginiaMurr@mastodon.social

@jasonekratz

Not sure why your reply is so antagonistic. The OP was unclear why some people may have a problem with Bluesky -- so I gave a reason: the co-founder has shit character & doesn't care who he harms as long as he profits.

You might view character as a "ridiculous" non-essential while giving tech development primacy over people. That's fine. You're entitled to your views. Lots of people (incl. myself) disagree. That's all. No reason to be pissy.

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yurymol
yurymol

@manton I really appreciate your approach towards it. Too many people just want to avoid learning something new even if it could potentially be a great thing.

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VirginiaMurr@mastodon.social
VirginiaMurr@mastodon.social

@jasonekratz

I never said the OP was unclear. Not once.

However, thank you for confirming my point that you consider Dorsey's shit character & its resulting harms as less important than tech. development.

Side-note: equating charity with some kind of innate goodness or virtue, particularly when said charity results in tax write-offs, and even more particularly when the person has demonstrated shitty behavior, is not logical.

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tchambers@indieweb.social
tchambers@indieweb.social

@jasonekratz 👍 Thank you!

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