@philbowell 🤨 mmm, the first thing I did when saw the announcement was to check if they still supported WiFi sync etc
@philbowell @jemostrom From their posts earlier in the year, I had more faith that they would continue to support standalone licenses. But now it feels like this will probably be the last version that isn't subscription only.
@philbowell @jemostrom I do have a family subscription because it makes it far easier to help non-technical relatives, but it still makes me sad that AgileBits is moving in this direction.
@Bruce @philbowell in addition to the subscription thing I’ve also noticed that I’m trying to avoid storing things on “US servers”, I use a few services but way fewer than I used to.
@philbowell @jemostrom I do trust their posts about their encryption. From what they've said, it's impossible from them to get access to your vaults. If you forget your master password, you have to start from scratch—there's nothing they can do.
@philbowell @jemostrom If you trust what they say, the only way into your vaults is brute force decryption. With a strong enough master password, you should be safe. They've also said the methods they use to encrypt really slow down brute force attacks.
@jemostrom yeh, it’s very hard to find any info on their site about alternate methods of both sync and purchasing the app itself.
@Bruce yep, there seems to be very little info on non-subscription use of the app on their site.
@Bruce @jemostrom it’s less about that and more about trusting one company with all my passwords and the feeling that gives me. The trouble is I’ve been using the app for so many years I wouldn’t know how to handle all my passwords without it.
@philbowell KeyPass? It's not native to macOS, but it'll run via mono or wine. Also, it's open source.
I need to double check, but I think 1Password on the Mac may make local backups of your subscription vaults. So even if AgileBits goes away, you'll have your data.
@philbowell I totally agree. I’m usually happy to subscribe but I’m not clear on what I get for this.
@BestofTimes Free use and updates to all their apps, access via a secure website, and (for family/teams) easy sharing and access control. For less technical members of a family, you can get them back in if they forget their master password. Of course, no one can do so for you.
@BestofTimes I've got no connection to AgileBits and was happy with the standalone version until I needed to help my mother with computer security.
@philbowell @bruce same here, although I’ve done the switch once before (to 1Password) and that was an improvement. And I pretty much trust Agilebits the company but not the US the county 😏
@jemostrom I don't know anything about the company, but found this password app via Vector's show notes (not endorsed by them, but through the import instructions on their sponsor's website). It's made by a US company, but you can sync via WebDAV on your own server. And they don't seem to have their own subscription service, unlike most of the competitors.