adamprocter
adamprocter

100% agree with this critique of the social dilemma - this thought was burning in head all the time and this article puts it so well.

Of course we need the redeemed tech bro’s to save us I knew it 🤦🏻‍♂️

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jack
jack

@adamprocter This is the second article I've seen recently with this theme and I'm not sure how to feel about it. Still noodling on it, but I'm not convinced that the people who have significant insider, in-the-trenches experience with the cause of a problem should not be allowed to help find solutions, "tech bro" or not. As for the tech bros having the biggest microphones, right, it's not fair, but I don't see how it happens any other way. Who is Average Jane going to listen to at first, someone "famous" from the inside who's "reformed" or some nobody activist they've never heard of? And I suspect that ex-insiders are more likely to positively influence current insiders, so let 'em! I'm conflicted around this mostly because of the "more tech can solve bad tech" problem. I don't know if their story arc is too pat, but It's fascinating. Thanks for the link!

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adamprocter
adamprocter

@jack what a wonderful reply. And I want to add my endorsement of what you say here aswell. I’ve had a few moments where “famous” tech people are suddenly talking about and offering solutions on concepts I have researched and made stuff in response to for years but I don’t live in San Fran or have a bank balance that doesn’t require a connected but demanding day job. Also do any of these people actually have families 🤪 I guess I’m making some judgements there and I don’t want to come over as and old sour puss mind. Those with concerns need and should work together to consider the implications of networked technology and humans.

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petebrown
petebrown

@adamprocter @jack I think I would be more okay with the Reformed Tech Bros if they ever offered any acknowledgement of the folks who have been ringing this bell for years. Instead, it is, as usual, as though they are coming down from the mountain to give us their wisdom. A bit of humility and self-awareness does not seem like too much to ask.

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jack
jack

@petebrown Yeah, that's a good point. They're in a decent position to fire people up but then could pass the torch, as it were.

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adamprocter
adamprocter

@petebrown agree

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giov
giov

@adamprocter interesting take. I feel the same uneasiness about reformed tech-bros, but maybe it’s just the same uneasiness that I have towards certain religious aspects of Silicon Valley culture.

This having been said, I also think that if the goal of the documentary is to bring the general public up to speed on the dangers of social media, and with a real sense of urgency, there’s no better way than having the creators deliver the message.

If I watched a documentary on, idk, a certain car manufacturer, with the engineering team saying “please don’t drive our cars!”... I’d certainly listen to the advice.

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