otaviocc
otaviocc

@moonmehta do you highlight articles you read? If you do, do you export them later (and how)?

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@moonmehta my setup is Feedbin for RSS and Newsletters, Matter for reading later (and highlighting), Obsidian for storing highlights and comments.

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@otaviocc I do not currently highlight articles though it seems like I should! What I’ve been doing instead sometimes is this ancient thing where I manually quote excerpts from articles I like in Bear or elsewhere relevant. How has highlighting on Matter been working for you? And does it autosync to Obsidian?

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@moonmehta I use Readwise - not Matter - but it does sync to my Obsidian

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moonmehta

@JohnPhilpin Nice. What do you use Readwise for? How has the experience been?

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pratik
pratik

@moonmehta @JohnPhilpin +1 for highlighting with Readwise. It imports from many sources and I LOVE reviewing my highlights daily thanks to their "gamification" feature in the app. Also, hypothes.is is excellent for web use and syncs to Readwise. Their new Reader app is optional since you use Instapaper already

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leeS
leeS

@pratik @moonmehta @JohnPhilpin Also a big fan of Readwise. It's become part of my daily workflow. I export the highlights into IA Writer as the basis for articles or blogs. I use it for books as well, and love reviewing the highlights as Pratik mentions.

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otaviocc
otaviocc

@moonmehta I do a lot of highlighting, in books and articles online. Matter has an official Obsidian plugin which fetches the highlights regularly.

But something I think I wouldn't mind to do it manually like you do. I don't need every single highlight from every single article that I read.

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@moonmehta - FreshRSS + Kill-the-newsletter - Instapaper - IFTTT sends Instapaper comments and highlights to my WP blog as private posts - Firefox for personal, Chrome for work - DDG on desktop, Google search on mobile - Day One for reflections

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@moonmehta

You asked about Reading Stacks and specifically Readwise. The reply is a combination of too long and possibly off topic - still I [hope this is interesting and helps](https://john.philpin.com/2023/02/15/171407.htmlj

// @otaviocc @leeS @pratik @manuelmoreale @nitinkhanna

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@otaviocc Thanks, I'm going to try highlighting in Raindrop and Instapaper and see how that works out.

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@JohnPhilpin @leeS @pratik Thanks all for your suggestions to use Readwise. Its ability to import highlights from tons of places is really impressive, and seems to make Readwise a product that carved its own kind. But I’m skeptical of the value for money, especially when organizing and exporting highlights is in the premium tier and that prices of both tiers will go up soon. No regional pricing either. Now, the Reader itself looks more intriguing but I've gotten comfortable with Feedbin+Instapaper. Wondering what to do...

BTW, John, many of my blog posts also started as replies, such as this one! So I too find it a great way to blog.

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@nitinkhanna I’ve heard of Kill the Newsletter but never used it because Feedbin has a similar function. But I’m curious how well has it worked for you across different newsletters in terms of receiving emails, their formatting and so on?

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@manuelmoreale Are.na reminds me of Pinterest, except non-corporatized. I’m curious to see how search.marginalia.nu compares to Kagi’s non-commercial index and results. Do you happen to remember something interesting you found via Marginalia search? Anybox looks interesting as well, especially as it seems to have several little unique takes on usage on the Mac. Thanks Manu for sharing these interesting tools!

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@manuelmoreale Nice!

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@moonmehta ‘your mileage may vary’ … and a big believer in the sentiment ‘if what you have works for you .. don’t change’ … though of course I am exempt from my own advice!

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JohnPhilpin
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@moonmehta I tried to comment on the post … but you need money first 😂😂 … but just to say

The other argument I want to make is that many of us “bloggers” are more tech savvy than people on average. We don't realize just how much friction exists for people in general to setup their own identity on the Internet. Substack makes that part ridiculously easy, and that is why I embrace it.

💯

Across the entire industry. Many people have no idea of the power in their hands or on their lap/desk and the industry spends no time in knocking down those barriers.

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@JohnPhilpin Yes! That remains my main single biggest complaint about the ”blogging culture” and those frustrated about it not being as big of a thing. It’s sad but without that realization IMO progress can’t happen.

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jeroensangers
jeroensangers

@moonmehta Reeder for feeds, kill the newsletter for newsletters, Safari’s read later queue, hypothes.is for annotations and Tana for my notes and thoughts.

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toddgrotenhuis
toddgrotenhuis

@jeroensangers how are you backing up/exporting tana?

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@jeroensangers Tana looks really interesting. What all do you use it for?

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jeroensangers
jeroensangers

@toddgrotenhuis Tana has an export option that generates a JSON file. Each week I manually run an export, but wish it was automatic.

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jeroensangers
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@moonmehta Everything! Notes on material I read, journaling, CRM, task management, thinking. I live in Tana.

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@jeroensangers Haha, that’s cool.

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moonmehta

@moonmehta I’m surprised that this post got zero comments on LinkedIn, a network meant for professional growth! And my other posts do have good engagement over there so not sure what’s up.

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@moonmehta Ah well, I've learnt the hard way that most people don't look at their jobs as something to enjoy, just something to earn their bread from. I've seen so many techies who can't be bothered with RSS or blogs or read later or note taking or even journaling.

Heck, I'd say that out of a network of about thirty professionals around me, two others read books. Fiction (or non-fiction) books! Like... How hard is it to read? Needless to say, I stopped gifting people books very quickly.

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moonmehta
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@nitinkhanna

I've seen so many techies who can't be bothered with RSS or blogs or read later or note taking or even journaling.

That’s really sad. ☹️

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toddgrotenhuis
toddgrotenhuis

@jeroensangers ahh! Thank you. Is it importable by anything, meaning the structure would be pretty easy to parse into markdown or text bundle or something?

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jeroensangers
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@toddgrotenhuis You will probably have to do some processing on the file before you can import it.

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@JohnPhilpin @leeS @pratik Okay, resistance is futile! I might as well give Readwise’s free trial a shot at least. Can either of you please send me a referral link? 🙂🙈

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@moonmehta there you go .. not sure what it gives you beyond just signing up .. but I guess there must be a reason they have it?

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JohnPhilpin
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@moonmehta took a quick look and it seems to be a very different flavor to your usual?

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@JohnPhilpin Thank you! Apparently a referral signup gives me an additional free month of trial but not to you, unless you’re also on a trial! Strange setup.

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moonmehta
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@JohnPhilpin Quick look at what? Sorry but I think I’m missing the (invisible) tying thread of your comment! 😅

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@moonmehta aah .. sorry .. yet again the need for threaded conversation shouts into the wind .. there was no link ... i was referencing the lack of engagement on your linkedIN post.

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JohnPhilpin
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@moonmehta aah .. who knew ( not me ), enjoy and you know where help can be found. Does the trial also apply to the Reader app?

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moonmehta
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@JohnPhilpin Ah, I see. Yeah, certainly a different type of post than my usual but still.. zero responses and zero likes? That’s what surprises me. Not that the likes matter but just seeing it from a pure stats perspective. Maybe this is just a side effect of the LinkedIn algorithm deciding which of my posts it deems ”relevant” for my connections and followers. XD

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moonmehta
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@JohnPhilpin Yes, the trial is working for the Reader app as well. However, I didn’t get the extra free month for some reason. You should’ve gotten it too, according to the sign up info I was presented with. Will follow up with support for both.

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JohnPhilpin
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@moonmehta I find them very helpful and responsive.

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@moonmehta KTN (kill The Newsletter) works well! Many email newsletters don't have a URL backing them, so KTN shows them as standalone items in my RSS feed. Those that do, point to those.

The formatting is a little barebones. For example, InkMango/thejuggernaut uses a lot of tables in their emails (primarily because their email provider - mailchimp formats emails like that) and those show up as weird outlines in my feed. But others make responsive emails and KTN flourishes with those!

Receving emails is a breeze. I think KTN processes hundreds of thousands of emails and doesn't break a sweat!

The only caveat ever is that you should keep a track of the original email, since it has a code that lets you modify your newsletter settings, not that there are a lot of settings to modify in the first place. You can just copy the code once to backup and be done with it, if you want to bother with it at all.

I've seen Feedbin have a similar feature and that's very nice of them. KTN is perfect for us outsiders :)

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@moonmehta yes... it is! :|

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@nitinkhanna Thanks for the detailed response on Kill The Newsletter! It's such a nice service.

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