manton
manton
Sticker Mule manton.org
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andyn@social.lol
andyn@social.lol

@manton very well put, as, always.

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kitt
kitt

@manton Sticker Ninja comes highly recommended from the XOXO fest group. :)

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manton
manton

@kitt Good to know! We can switch to them in the future.

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pratik
pratik

@manton 👏🏽 Good line of thinking.

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jmanes
jmanes

@manton What a wild response from the founder. Ditching his ass is the only right response.

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dave
dave

@manton Makes sense. He's made Trump support a selling point, implying that his customers are there because they support Trump. Also makes sense that you'd disclose it, to maintain your integrity. Make sure everyone knows where you're coming from. I'm voting straight Democratic too, fwiw. ;-)

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rpmik
rpmik

@manton Where I live, it's Trump voters everywhere. I wouldn't be able to have a modern life if I avoided doing business with Trumpers (electricians, plumbers etc). So I'll do business with those that don't USE their business to obviously support Trump. If they do, they're out. Yeah, Sticker Mule definitely crossed that line.

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mcg
mcg

@manton Well said.

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DaveyCraney
DaveyCraney

@manton This is a good post 👍

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vincent
vincent

@kitt love their homepage, it's pretty awesome.

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maique
maique

@manton 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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acfusco
acfusco

@manton Is there a policy concerning political posts in the Discover feed?

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joec
joec

@manton well said. If you boycott every business that has a CEO you disagree with, pretty soon you won’t be able to buy anything. But this is definitely over the line. Thanks for the tip. They are off my list as well.

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KimberlyHirsh
KimberlyHirsh

@manton Business practices are a big part of it for me, too. I mean, there are businesses that are known large donors/sponsors that I will avoid patronizing, but I look as much to labor practices and how they treat customers. This tweet (I know but it's where someone referred me to it) gives multiple examples of what I mean.

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pratik
pratik

@KimberlyHirsh This is approaching that pillow guy level. It seems the sticker guy wants in in the cash cow that’s the conservative hate memorabilia market. Also, not surprised that he violates labor laws. Such places are notoriously bad places to work

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linh
linh

@manton I honestly struggle with this a bit. I fully agree with you... but I've seen the other side of this as well. A very left leaning business owner pushing their politics direct to customers.

I just happen to agree with them so it slides and it feels a bit hypocritical on my part. But this company also is very clearly left leaning in their promotion and portrayal. So it's... not a surprise?

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jarrod
jarrod

@manton Well said! I’m curious (because I struggle with it myself) on where you land with 37signals — if you care to share. I mostly like the products, but have become increasingly uncomfortable with DHH’s (and somewhat JF’s) views. Now they write on their personal blogs (which I can and do ignore these days) instead of the company site…and yet…I wouldn’t feel great about using or recommending their products like I used to.

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jsonbecker
jsonbecker

@jarrod I drew the line with 37 Signal when it became clear that they operate a workplace in line with beliefs I find to be horrific in bosses, which felt like a betrayal after they spend so much time talking about what a great place to work they had made.

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jarrod
jarrod

@jsonbecker That was the catalyst for me as well.

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manton
manton

@acfusco We try to avoid political posts in Discover. It’s not a strict rule but I think generally it’s better and less divisive.

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manton
manton

@jarrod I've been a fan of Jason's for so long (first blogged about him 20 years ago) that I think I'm more forgiving of that team than some people. I do disagree with DHH sometimes, but he's right a lot too. I totally get why some people are uncomfortable using their products. Another considering to me is that there really isn't any other software like Basecamp.

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jarrod
jarrod

@manton Thanks for sharing

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