manton
manton
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pedroin
pedroin

@manton great post and agree with you. I love the minimalist approach, no hearts, claps, likes, counters, etc. It feels good. I hope to find more Spanish speakers in this amazing community.

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Burk
Burk

@manton I started writing a reply to this, and then diverted to MarsEdit to write a longer post.

(That felt SO micro.blog!) 😃

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manton
manton

@Burk Thanks! And I agree that Favorites should evolve. For a while I've been thinking just renaming it Bookmarks will be the most obvious solution, but I'm open to other ideas.

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isaiah
isaiah

@manton i know i’m probably a minority’s, but i miss the nonverbal ways to interact. i’m not a talkative person by nature. i could reply with a simple 👍 but it would probably come across as just being flippant.

my proposal: “reactions” on slack might work well. it’s easy, yes — but with more nuanced potential and requires a bit more work than simply tapping a like button.

and perhaps implementable as simply any one-emoji reply.

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ronguest
ronguest

@manton The “lack” of this “feature” is one of the reasons I joined. I think if this was added it turns the platform into a huge marketing platform where, once again, typical users are just a product.

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manton
manton

@isaiah That's exactly what I want to explore: something closer to Slack reactions or Basecamp's short boost posts, implemented as emoji posts. Might experiment with this in Sunlit first.

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isaiah
isaiah

@manton i'd be happy to stick it in kiwi and give you a second perspective if you want.

just for testing of course. not because i totally want that feature and am completely impatient. ;-)

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@isaiah 👍 .. non flippantly 😊

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isaiah
isaiah

@ronguest what if the default behavior was to keep that data — the "counts" — private? that way it would be very difficult to use for marketing purposes. but still work as communication method.

i think those counts -- when they're public -- are really the root of all evil. data that can be used to do evil things WILL be used to do evil things.

but if the data is private -- or even just private by default -- that's a good way of frustrating the evil. perhaps enough that we can keep the baby and get rid of the bathwater.

maybe?

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ronguest
ronguest

@isaiah I see zero benefit in that existing at all and believe even if private it can be misused and certainly voluntarily published. The “evil” people as you put it are very determined and creative at getting what they want.

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isaiah
isaiah

@ronguest 👍

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manton
manton

@isaiah Cool! Also check out Instagram's emoji-based quick replies if they are enabled on your account. (I can't seem to find a screenshot online, so I wonder if Instagram has decided not to roll it out.)

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Cheri
Cheri

@pedroin Hola Pedro! Estoy aprendiendo Español y me gustaría leer su palabras aquí. Sin embargo, yo hablo solo un poquito Español. 😊

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isaiah
isaiah

@manton definitely not on my account. 😕 but i'll keep a look out for info about it.

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Cheri
Cheri

@manton At first, no follower count seemed weird. But I’ve come to love it. Without the pressure, I feel freer to be myself. 👊🏼

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manton
manton

@cheri Good to hear! Thank you.

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schuth
schuth

@ronguest I also wonder if even private interaction data could eventually discourage people who don’t get much of — or only that — interaction, on their posts. Why dial a number if you always get a busy signal? At least now there’s know way of knowing short of getting a comment.

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pedroin
pedroin

@cheri Hi there! I write in Spanish because I live in southamerica (Lima, Peru) and most of my contacts are latinos. So please feel free to read me... I post about life, family and insights, sometimes futbol, sometimes tech, something Jesus, sometimes leadership, sometimes books I’m reading or movies that I like.

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derekpeden
derekpeden

@cheri I agree. Private follower counts keep the platform free from the race for more followers. The interaction should be measured in the quality of the conversation, not the quantity of the followers or favourites. // @isaiah

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isaiah
isaiah

@schuth i think that’s a dual edged sword. stats can be both encouraging and discouraging.

but i suspect (putting words into @manton’s mouth — sorry) the goal is to remove the competitiveness, privacy problems, and most of all the gamification that stats encourage.

my opinion: feedback, good and bad, is probably the baby in the gamification bath water that is worth hanging onto if possible.

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EddieHinkle
EddieHinkle

@manton I think something like Slack’s reactions could be great. It lines up with something we’ve been experimenting with in the IndieWeb as “reacji”. Essentially they are replies with just a single emoji under the hood. But in processing and UIs we can think of them as reactions. I find Slack’s approach very beneficial.

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manton
manton

@EddieHinkle Thanks! Yep, I've been following the experiments with reacji as well. I like them.

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