Micro.blog

manton
manton

I like what The New York Times does with their side-by-side impeachment video and analysis, which is essentially a live microblog. In M.b we experimented with highlighting WWDC-related posts this year, and I’d love to expand that with live updates.

bix
bix

@manton How would that work?

manton
manton

@bix I'd like to explore a few things: make the UI and timeline refresh better for when you are posting many times in a row, and also maybe separate topic areas that could be added to or collected from multiple people like we did with the WWDC topic. Some of the plumbing is there.

bix
bix

@manton I was somewhat randomly thinking about a related issue the other day. It would be useful sometimes for how I blog if there were a built-in way to post an update to a blog post other than editing the post, e.g. maybe if I replied to one of my own blog posts here in the social feed, it gets added as an update on the original post, with its own timestamp. Something like that would also work if one person was liveblogging (though I guess it still “spams” the social feed).

manton
manton

@bix That is definitely worth exploring as well. It gives us a better answer for people who like tweetstorms.

bix
bix

@manton This might be overcomplicating the matter but maybe either an author would have a toggle to only post the update to the blog post not the social feed, or maybe followers could have a setting (like the “show all replies?” setting) to not see these sorts of update!replies. I don’t know, I’m not awake yet.

SteveSawczyn
SteveSawczyn

@manton I like the direction this conversation is taking. I wouldn't want to spam my MB feed necessarily with a live blog, but there are times, like when attending a conference or event, where that would come in handy. On Twitter, I tend to just use a hashtag so people that are not interested can easily filter it out or can temporarily muffle me. If we had a similar way for people to somehow skip over the posts in MB, I'd probably live blog a lot more. Another idea might be a special post type, maybe a "story post" or something similar: the idea being that the user creates one post of this type and then somehow can add additional micro updates to it. DURING the updates and after completion the entire thing would be essentially one post with the micro updates being time stamped. This might be a challenge to implement from a UI perspective, but essentially, it's the equivalent of publishing a post and then updating it multiple times, each update being time stamped. However this might come to fruition, I like the idea of live micro blogging and think it'd fill a niche the other platforms haven't quite mastered.

manton
manton

@SteveSawczyn Thanks for the ideas!

bix
bix

@SteveSawczyn You and are are on the same track with suggesting how to do this. I really do think that with a combination of "author marks a new post as a liveblog" and “follower has show/mute liveblogs setting”, updating a liveblog as the author could be as simple as replying to one's own initial post. (But then I am not a coder and it'd all be @manton’s job, so…)

SteveSawczyn
SteveSawczyn

@bix Exactly. Replying to the original post has the advantage that no UI changes would be needed for any of the clients and it'd be especially easy to do on the mobile clients. The trick would be appending, or prepending the replies to the original post and hiding them from the MB feed. A challenge for sure, but I have faith in @manton, no pressure of course. :)

manton
manton

@SteveSawczyn @bix Y'all might be onto something with this. I like it.

bix
bix

@manton For what it's worth, I would also find this live-blog stuff useful just for updating a post with new information, which I will sometimes do instead of making a new post, especially if it's still the same day as the original post.

smokey
smokey

@manton A little while ago, @kordumb wrote up how he’s put together liveblogging on Blot; there might be something useful in there, too.

smokey
smokey

@manton

also maybe separate topic areas that could be added to or collected from multiple people like we did with the WWDC topic.

Possibly something like discover/live for any current liveblogs?

bix
bix

@smokey Personally, I don’t think the originating blog post should do any kind of auto-refreshing. I think that for the most part if you want updates as they happen, you should be following the relevant M.b user and get them in your Timeline.

smokey
smokey

@bix It depends a bit on how the underlying mechanism ends up working, but we should also consider that the original blog post (web page) should still be functional for anyone on the web, not just Micro.blog members.

bix
bix

@smokey Right. But that would be the case if the updates, on the blog post end of things, are effectively the same as if I’d gone to Posts, hit Edit, added some text, and re-saved it. There doesn’t need to be some sort of live-updating widgety behavior.