manton
manton

Starting to see a path for Nikki Haley to be the nominee. I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I don’t think she should be president, so I’d rather Joe Biden face a weaker candidate. On the other, it’d be such a relief just to definitively know Trump can’t be president again. 🇺🇸

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patrickrhone
patrickrhone

@manton I find your optimism charming.

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DanFox@mstdn.ca
DanFox@mstdn.ca

@manton I suspect there are a certain number of Trump supporters who will never accept this outcome, and just won't vote. Maybe 5%? 10%? Certainly enough to sink any non-Trump candidate.

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manton
manton

@patrickrhone It's all I've got. Unfortunately optimism doesn't win elections.

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patrickrhone
patrickrhone

@manton Yes. But charm changes minds.

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opethminded@mstdn.social
opethminded@mstdn.social

@manton If only our forefathers had the foresight to put a provision in the Constitution that forbids insurrectionists from running for any office at any level of government we could all sleep easier in 2024.

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manton
manton

@DanFox Maybe, it is really hard to predict. Certainly the enthusiasm will be much lower in the base.

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manton
manton

@braker1nine One thing I worry about is Democrats not feeling the urgency if Trump isn't the nominee. So maybe there's lower turnout on both sides.

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hbowie
hbowie

@manton I think it's a really unstable situation, so it's hard to predict what will happen. We are certainly in uncharted waters, with a former president facing off against a current president, with both of them close to, or in, their eighties, and with both of them dragging along a significant number of unenthusiastic, if not downright reluctant, supporters -- plus the specter of a third-party candidate or two. Any number of things could upset various apple carts at any moment.

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lukemperez
lukemperez

@manton @DanFox This is almost certainly true for any non-Trump candidate. He'll go scorched earth if he isn't the nominee and sink the whole GOP ticket up and down stream rather than concede defeat. So in some way it likely doesn't matter if Haley is the nominee; in another, it matters a lot for the post-Trump elections of 2026 and beyond whether the right-populist wave finally subsides. (It seems to have on the left since there hasn't been a prominent figure to take up the post-Sanders mantle.)

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JohnBrady
JohnBrady

@manton It would be a relief for sure. At this point the dems are in effect working to elect Cheeto, so the path you describe is maybe the best realistic (if it is realistic) hope.

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ReaderJohn
ReaderJohn

@manton I've got my faith that Someone is in control, but I don't see, humanly speaking, how that doesn't mean that the United States as we've known it is dying, and I have no faith that The One in control has decreed that we shall ever again be Cock O' the Walk. Consequential times, these.

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