news
news

Added “date read” to the Goodreads CSV import.
Added HTML tag s (strikethrough) to the allowed tags in the timeline.

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renevanbelzen
renevanbelzen

@news FYI the HTML tag s has been deprecated.

However, there doesn't seem to be a semantic alternative, just a CSS replacement, which is also much harder to code in Markdown documents. So, is that the reason to allow this deprecated HTML tag?

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pimoore
pimoore

@renevanbelzen @manton According to that page <strike> is also deprecated, but <s> is listed as an alternative (along with <del>)?

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@pimoore been using del .. good we can use s .. wasn’t ~ an alternative at one point?

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leeperry
leeperry

@JohnPhilpin I'm sure I've wrapped something inside ~strikes~ recently in markdown.

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sod
sod

@renevanbelzen @news @pimoore s is not deprecated, but strike is. When in doubt, check the HTML Standard.

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sod
sod

@JohnPhilpin @pimoore Both are fine to use, but semantically they represent different things. s is for representing stuff that is no longer relevant or accurate. del is for representing text that has been deleted.

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@sod new news … I am not rigorous in that distinction, and the reader .. that I care more about .. would see no difference I assume? Thanks for the clarification.

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@leeperry yup .. but doesn’t seem to work on micro blog

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odd
odd

@news Oh, I thought I’d done something wrong when trying this out <s>later</s> earlier.

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pimoore
pimoore

@sod So does this mean the “~~” Markdown code in a post will work and translate correctly in the timeline?

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leeperry
leeperry

@JohnPhilpin how bizarre, I'd not noticed that it does not strike through on the timeline.

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sod
sod

@JohnPhilpin Yes, probably, in most cases. 😊 But it's important to understand that del does not guarantee your text to be strikethrough. It represents deleted text, and it's up to browser vendors, web designers and developers how to style that element. For example, deleted text could be shown as red, or light gray, or blurry instead. Or not at all.

s, on the other hand, literally is the strikethrough element. So use that if strikethrough text is what you want.

Trying one's best to use the semantically correct element is good for accessibility as well. Tools, like screen readers and refreshable braille displays, might convey meaning based on the text's underlying semantics.

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sod
sod

@pimoore Yes, it should, as long as it renders into a s or del element in the RSS or JSON feed you've set up to go to your timeline.

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@sod

del does not guarantee your text to be strikethrough.

OH. THANKYOU. Time to go back and do some revisits!

I never rarely use strikethrough - then typically' in a post that I am kind of correcting' as I write, for an emphasis. (Using 's').

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@JohnPhilpin and that doesn’t work in the timeline!

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

oh wait

the <s></s> syntax has been broken by MicroBlog - I keep having that happen.

I never rarely use strikethrough - then typically' in a post that I am kind of correcting' as I write, for an emphasis.

// @manton @sod

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sod
sod

@JohnPhilpin @manton Oh, yes, using HTML in replies is quite an adventure. 😊 There's maybe definitly inconsistencies there.

Sometimes it helps to update the reply (it did, for this one).

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manton
manton

@sod @JohnPhilpin Yeah, most HTML in replies is not supposed to work. I guess editing is a loophole for now!

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@manton is that on purpose?

Is that why the tags sometimes get corrupted after hitting send and before it appears?

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