Seems there aren’t many notes apps that are end-to-end encrypted. Obsidian is one, and there’s also Day One for journals. Wondering how important this is to folks. Personally, I like that Day One is encrypted but I would use it even if it wasn’t. And most of my notes are just on Dropbox.
@manton I’m using a mix of Apple Notes and Anytype because both have end-to-end encryption. Phased out my use of Notion.
@manton you are right. I have thought of this much. There is not even one app I can think that that does this.
@eshwarnag @manton Reflect is a great notes app with e2e encryption. It’s a very clean and simple app with active development.
@manton Standard Notes are! And although I’m not using them at all, I’ve tried and they work pretty fine. It’s like Simplenote but on cocaine, I don’t need anything like that and recently found myself using Tot + Obsidian.
I can only speak for an audience of one (me), but encryption was a big deal for me in choosing a note taking app.
I ended up with Joplin.
@manton I think local storage (my iPad) helps avoid the inherent insecurity of storing data on someone else’s harddrive (the cloud, which is hard to avoid…). I think local iPad data is encrypted (like FileVault on macOS?). If I need files on my iPhone, I can AirDrop them. Of course, this means leaning into using native apps with discreet files (like Obsidian).
Day One prioritizes encryption, but it is also introducing a (beta) web app = more risk.
@manton fwiw, Joplin also supports end to end encryption and I am using it simply because I am using OneDrive as the synchronization server. I prefer that what I store on devices outside my house be encrypted under my control, but I am not so dogmatic about it otherwise I wouldn’t be using any mobile device. Having learned about passkeys, I think end to end encryption needs to be much more simplified for the majority of notes apps, perhaps in a way similar to passkeys.
@manton Follow-up:
“iOS and iPadOS devices use a file encryption methodology called Data Protection, whereas the data on an Intel-based Mac is protected with a volume encryption technology called FileVault.”
https://support.apple.com/guide/security/encryption-and-data-protection-overview-sece3bee0835/web
@manton it’s really important to me for DayOne. It would be important to me if I kept notes about “work” since that’s proprietary info etc. For personal stuff, not sure I’d care that much. That said, it’s strange it’s uncommon because notes seem very straight forward to encrypt and I don’t know why you’d gain anything with access to note content.