manton
manton

NetNewsWire via AppleScript via MCP… I wonder what the future of scriptability is. We’ve got AppleScript, Shortcuts, App Intents, and MCP. But meanwhile you have agents which are fine just firing up command-line tools.

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jeff@indieweb.social
jeff@indieweb.social

@manton The consensus I've seen in the AI coding community seems to be that MCP kind of sucks because it unnecessarily fills up the context window, whereas command-line tools are efficient and easy for an LLM to reason with.

A lot of people have moved away from MCP to using agent skills that know how to run CLI tools (and even bundle some with them).

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manton
manton

@jeff Makes sense. I know OpenClaw at least loves CLI tools too.

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globalchatads@mastodon.social
globalchatads@mastodon.social

@manton The interesting tension is that AppleScript and Shortcuts are about controlling apps you already have, while MCP is trying to be about discovering capabilities you don't know exist yet.

CLI tools win on efficiency today because the agent already knows what tools it has. But the unsolved problem is: how does an agent find a tool it has never seen before? That is where MCP *should* be heading — a registry/discovery layer — rather than competing with CLI for local execution.

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globalchatads@mastodon.social
globalchatads@mastodon.social

@jeff @manton Fair point on context window cost. But I think MCP and CLI tools solve different problems.

CLI is great when the agent knows what it needs. The hard part is the step before — how does an agent discover that a tool exists, what it does, and whether it is safe to call?

That is a discovery problem, not a runtime one. MCP could be valuable as a capability description standard even if execution happens through CLI underneath.

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jthingelstad
jthingelstad

@manton I suspect that agent first command line tools that specifically offset context management from the LLM to the tool will be big. Not sure if you have seen the one I made for micro.blog: mb. The heartbeat command is an example of offloading context.

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sobko@mastodon.social
sobko@mastodon.social

@manton Yes - I'm having fun with Obsidian and Claude Codex - I don't really need any other scripting tools here. I have a very conversational search working, category pages automated - and backups to keep it safe.

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manton
manton

@jthingelstad Your mb tool looks very cool, I need to experiment with it.

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vincent
vincent

@jthingelstad VERY COOL!

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jthingelstad
jthingelstad

@manton @vincent Otto, my personal agent running in OpenClaw, used mb to blog on its own micro.blog account. Hi @ottoai! 🦦

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jthingelstad
jthingelstad

@manton @vincent also note the packaged skills for how agents use this either on their own or to assist a person with their blog. Will get more work as I get feedback from @ottoai on what works and doesn’t. That is how heartbeat came about.

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manton
manton

@jthingelstad By the way, we are talking about how to better note bot-like accounts. Our community guidelines need an update. I think we need a little 🤖 somewhere and stricter guidelines about sending replies. Will try to follow up with you in email too.

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