I’m happy I switched away from Safari on the Mac… because their new version doesn’t allow me to start with an empty view (and just show favourites). It’ll always restore the last “thing” you were on. Terrible. There is no setting that I see to revert that.

@vincent I'm running Safari 18.1 on the Sequoia 18.1 Developer Beta. Under General, I set "Safari opens with a new window" and I set "new window opens with start page." New tab is set the same way.

For me, these settings ​bypass the problem that I think you're describing!

@vincent What are you using now?

@vincent what browser did you move to?

@7robots they must have reverted that decision then! The option for opening a new window isn’t available in the last update nor the 15.0 public beta. Thanks for reporting that 👍

@joshuapsteele Firefox. It’s not perfect but feels nicer than other choices.

@jimmitchell Firefox on the Mac. Feels nicer than the rest, although not perfect. Actually long term I am thinking of moving away from the Mac, so these are baby steps.

@vincent I want to move to Firefox, but 1) many necessary plugins aren't supported anymore in FF. such as Send to Kindle and Read on Remarkable. 2) mobile can't compare to Brave's Adblock on iOS, so syncing is out. 3) kiwi on Android supports plugins where Firefox doesn't have many.

@jimmitchell "Long term" — I think I want to see what happens after Tim steps down, so at least 5 years. It's tough because I'm looking at a new laptop but it's super expensive... Good to form new habits.

@vincent Totally get it. Though I'm a life-long Apple guy, I've often considered making the switch to Linux. If I did more web development, I probably would. Maybe when my MacBook Air gets too long in the tooth I will, so that's looking like five to seven years at least as well.

@jimmitchell I'm the same. Since inception, my parents were Apple people... and it's how I grew up. I do want to invest in a MacBook Air next, although it's nearly 2x more expensive than say a Framework — although I know the MBA will last me at least 5 years. I think Tim Cook totally gutted out Steve's legacy — so I'm sad about it (I miss the guy — because I grew up around Apple computers).

@vincent Agreed. The Apple of Steve had a whole different vibe than the Apple of Tim does now. I miss those days too.