cdevroe
cdevroe

Is anyone giving consideration to using iCloud+ Mail to replace Gmail for Domains? I am.

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endonend
endonend

@cdevroe set it up today! Have Fastmail sub through early 2022 so have that as backup if I need to move back.

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maique
maique

@cdevroe Still very happy with Fastmail. Will take a look at Apple's offer, but probably will stick with Fastmail.

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warner
warner

@cdevroe considering switch from Proton if they don't expand Drive storage. + Waiting to see cost for multiple iCloud domains

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@endonend What were the steps, if you don't mind, that you did to set it up? I'm currently on Gmail and wouldn't mind switching to Apple.

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warner
warner

@warner but yeah your switch seems like a no brainer, unless you like having your emails scanned! (My tips on how to continue using select Google services without mail.)

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endonend
endonend

@cdevroe have to do it from iCloud.com - there’s a custom domain button on account settings. Then you tell them what domain you are adding and the email address. Then it gives you a few DNS settings to add, and then you click a button to verify. It was actually pretty easy!

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endonend
endonend

@cdevroe also it was only available once I got the “you get icloud+” email from Apple.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@endonend cool thnx

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pimoore
pimoore

@cdevroe FastMail for me, but absolutely yes.

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mcg
mcg

@cdevroe Considering a move from Fastmail. I setup a new domain on ICloud+ to kick the tires, but hopefully some folks here will report back before I move my main domain.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@timapple I’m thinking I’ll give it a try this weekend.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@mcg Definitely report what you find!

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mandaris
mandaris

@pimoore @cdevroe I'm also using fastmail. I heard some people talking about protonmail, but then read some headlines that it's not as secure as it is advertising.

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pimoore
pimoore

@mandaris @cdevroe I don’t like the fact ProtonMail has no IMAP option to use whatever app you want. As least with FastMail I can access it through Apple Mail.

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pimoore
pimoore

@timapple I forgot about Bridge, but even that aside the rest of your comparison points are spot on. I just can’t justify paying extra for an email service when I’m already an iCloud subscriber. And they’ve even sweetened the pot by providing tracking pixel blocking in the likes of HEY and FastMail, though in the case of the latter I don’t believe it works if you access through a third party app.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@timapple How do you intend to "move your messages" to Apple? I have years of messages in Gmail I'd love to move.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@timapple Good tip, thanks.

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mandaris
mandaris

@pimoore @timapple I haven't even considered using Apple for custom domains and I do have an Apple One premiere for my family. I think this is a carry over for when the services were in need of vast amount of improvements.

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jmreekes
jmreekes

@cdevroe I moved one of my lesser used domains to iCloud just to test it and it’s been working fine. It’s all straight forward to set up. One thing that isn’t clear in Apple’s docs is you can receive emails sent to any address at your register domain.

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jmreekes
jmreekes

@cdevroe Apple’s docs don’t specifically address a catch-address and some docs make it seem like you can only receive emails sent to configured addresses.

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jmreekes
jmreekes

@mandaris Proton is pricey for what you get

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mandaris
mandaris

@jmreekes Oh! It's good to hear from you. I'm paid up through the beginning of the next year.

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@cdevroe I never used gmail outside of my ‘throwaway’ gmail that you have through signing up ….

That said I do have some mail free websites that I’m thinking of adding.

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ronguest
ronguest

@cdevroe Great to see your and the other reports. I’m keen to try Cloud+ custom domain. Like some others I’ve been using ProtonMail.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@ronguest I'm looking forward to trying it. Today I tried to create my iCloud email address and there was an error. So I'm guessing a lot of people are turning this on right now. I'll try again at a different time.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@jmreekes That's a nice feature. I find myself wishing Apple had a 1TB add-on for Apple One.

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jamescousins
jamescousins

@jmreekes That’s what had me holding off, I’ve so many service@mydomain emails I have no way of identifying them all. Can you block addresses too? To dump those that are getting spammed?

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jmreekes
jmreekes

@jamescousins That was my biggest question as well because, like you, I have countless service@mydomajn.com emails. You can’t create a blocklist but you can block senders through the mail app and/or create a rule to move those messages to the trash.

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jmreekes
jmreekes

@jmreekes Now that I’ve said that, some service@mydomain.com type emails sent to my iCloud domain have started bouncing

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jamescousins
jamescousins

@jmreekes So can, effectively, replicate what I’m doing on my server. Do you know how it works with family? (My last annoyance cannot be solved, I have ‘my’ .Mac email address, but I don’t use it for my Apple account.)

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jmreekes
jmreekes

@jamescousins Possibly. Apparently, iCloud Custom Domains don’t currently have catch-all support. I think the reason I thought it did was I was testing it with my Fastmail account which that domain used to and Fastmail still thought it was at Fastmail

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jmreekes
jmreekes

@jamescousins I tried sending an email to a non-configured iCloud Domain address from Gmail and it bounced. Sorry for the confusion and bad information. @cdevroe

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jamescousins
jamescousins

@jmreekes Damn. Was hoping I could dispense with my hosting (been experimenting with a GitHub static site too). Annoying thing is that I can see this being the sort of thing Apple won’t add down the line.

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jmreekes
jmreekes

@jamescousins Sadly I agree, especially with Hide My Email being a new feature of iCloud+. I think in Apple’s eyes, Hide My Email is catch-all/wildcard support even though Hide My Email only creates @icloud.com addresses.

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jmreekes
jmreekes

@jamescousins I’ll be sticking with Fastmail

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jmreekes
jmreekes

@jamescousins I think for the average user who only uses one address, iCloud Custom Domains is great. Not useful for me without wildcard support.

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jamescousins
jamescousins

@cdevroe If I was starting again, the way I’d have set things up would, coincidentally, have worked. But as it is I’m trapped with the legacy of 20 years of domain ownership and the frustration that it means I can’t use a really neat feature.

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jamescousins
jamescousins

@jmreekes Not sure why my last reply went to @cdevroe rather than you. Apologies for any confusion.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@jamescousins @jmreekes I still cannot create an icloud email so I'm guessing they are either getting many signups or the feature is so buggy they shut it off.

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jamescousins
jamescousins

@cdevroe We should have known better. Never get excited, give it some time. Remember MobileMe?

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@jamescousins trigger warning

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mroutley
mroutley

@endonend any chance your AppleID is the same as your custom domain email? I keep getting an unhelpful error message, but the address I'm trying to setup is the same as my AppleID, which could be the problem

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mroutley
mroutley

@timapple I've been getting strange errors trying to set this up, but my custom-domain email address is the same as my AppleID. Is this the problem you were having?

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@mroutley @timapple I still haven't been able to get this set up. I cannot even create the email address.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@jamescousins @timapple @jmreekes @ronguest @JohnPhilpin @pimoore @mcg @endonend A little birdie told me that Apple is having issues with creating new iCloud email addresses. Even through the error is less than obvious.

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endonend
endonend

@cdevroe I had issues with this initially but eventually got it to work. That was the most difficult part by far. Hope they fix that — it’s confusing for sure.

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jamescousins
jamescousins

@cdevroe They never quite get online service launches right, do they?

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pimoore
pimoore

@cdevroe honestly, with the new team up between FastMail and 1Password I might be signing back up for the latter and keeping FM. Hard for iCloud to compete with that even if they weren’t having problems.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@endonend you created a brand new icloud.com email address?

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endonend
endonend

@cdevroe yeah. My Apple ID is a Gmail address so when I turned on iCloud Mail it asked me create an address. Took a few attempts but it finally worked.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@endonend good to know.

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@cdevroe thanks for the heads up - not tried yet - and now we have Fastmail/1Password … from no choice to too much choice!

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brandedPixels
brandedPixels

@timapple have you ever tried imapsync.lamiral.info to move IMAP accounts? I’ve used it for server migrations and never had any issues. There is an online version of it now too.

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