toddgrotenhuis
toddgrotenhuis

Using @netnewswire and @sod’s “conversation on micro.blog” version of feeds is by far the best way to read “the timeline”.

Don’t lose my place. Don’t check too often because I know it will be there waiting for me when I am ready. Can quickly go to the right spot to reply.

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jabel
jabel

@toddgrotenhuis I like that idea. I think I’ll try it.

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toddgrotenhuis
toddgrotenhuis

@toddgrotenhuis another bonus I forgot to mention:

I read these feeds as a group, so it’s all in chronological order.

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sod
sod

@toddgrotenhuis Thanks, I'm glad you find it useful!

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pimoore
pimoore

@sod @toddgrotenhuis Wait, what is this alternate feed about? That sounds awesome, as I’m also viewing my timeline in RSS.

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sod
sod

@pimoore I'm hosting a handful of experimental feeds over at micro.blog.via.dahlstrand.net. They add a Conversation on Micro.blog link to each entry like this:

Screenshot showing a post in a feed reader. Directly below the post, there's a link: Conversation on Micro.blog. A handwritten text says: this link is added to all feed items.

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pimoore
pimoore

@sod Oh this is some serious wizardry! 😎 🧙‍♂️ Will this become a default option or have a plug-in at some point?

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sod
sod

@pimoore Those feeds are for subscribing to discovery, emoji, and user timelines, so it doesn't really make sense as a plug-in to your blog. But it could be a default option for the official feeds. That's something for @manton to meditate over. 😊

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sod
sod

@pimoore So good to see you back on the timeline, by the way. You've been missed!

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moonmehta
moonmehta

@sod This is really great.

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pimoore
pimoore

@sod @manton I’d love to see this as an official option. Getting into the conversations is the only sticking point to using RSS for the timeline.

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pimoore
pimoore

@sod Thanks Sven, I’ve missed everyone myself so I’m glad to join in here again!

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crossingthethreshold
crossingthethreshold

@toddgrotenhuis I didn’t even know that this was an option. Thank you @sod for making this available. I’m going to play around with @netnewswire and set this up later. Gratitude 🙏🏻

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crossingthethreshold
crossingthethreshold

@sod @toddgrotenhuis How often are these feeds refreshed - if I am asking the correct question?! I have just added it to Feedbin (via NetNewsWire) and with my impatience in trying something new, the feed is about 45 minutes behind the timeline despite refreshing.

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crossingthethreshold
crossingthethreshold

@sod Just to update. The RSS feed for my timeline does update, but it appears to be almost 2 hours behind the actual timeline, maybe more (just going by what I see as I type this). Is this expected behavior?

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sod
sod

@crossingthethreshold To avoid overloading Micro.blog's servers, I cache my version of the feeds for 120 seconds, but that means they shouldn't lag behind the official feed for much more than a couple of minutes or so. I'm looking at my version of your feed right now, and it's identical to the official one. The latest post is from 30 minutes ago.

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crossingthethreshold
crossingthethreshold

@sod Thank you for checking on my feed. I have been keeping an eye on it for the last hour or so. The last post the feed is showing is from an hour ago. Since then there have been 7 posts to the timeline, with the last being 8 minutes ago.

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tomselmes
tomselmes

@toddgrotenhuis @sod This is great, thank you!

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crossingthethreshold
crossingthethreshold

@sod I think that it might have something to do with how Feedbin works. If I put my micro.blog feed onto the iPhone account of @netnewswire, ie no third party feed reader, the feed is up to date with the timeline.

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sod
sod

@crossingthethreshold Yeah, your provider can cache the files for however long they want: minutes, hours, or days. That's outside my control, unfortunately. 😢

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ridwan
ridwan

@toddgrotenhuis I like this idea. @sod

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pimoore
pimoore

@sod Is there a way to have this link open in the Micro.blog app, as opposed to the web?

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manton
manton

@pimoore @sod It makes sense to have a special version of the official feeds to provide this. We can't actually make it the default because the web interface uses the feeds internally.

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sod
sod

@pimoore Hmm, good question, I don't know. Is there support for opening conversation links in the Micro.blog app, @manton? Something like microblog://conversation/12345678 or similar?

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pratik
pratik

@pimoore YES! That would be a better solution than an in-app browser. @sod @manton

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manton
manton

@sod @pratik @pimoore Yep! It's microblog://open/12345. Should work on Mac and iOS.

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pratik
pratik

@manton @pimoore Awesome. Does that mean @sod has to edit his Discover feeds and change the link to the Conversation for this to work?

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maique
maique

@toddgrotenhuis Awesome!! @sod 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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sod
sod

@pratik @pimoore @manton Yes, and I've made the necessary changes now. Next time the feeds are updated, you should see two links instead of one:

Screenshot showing a post in a feed reader. Directly below the post, there are two links: Conversation on Micro.blog or in app. A handwritten text says: these links are added to all feed items.

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pimoore
pimoore

@sod @pratik @manton Oh this is so full of win. Thanks, Sven!

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odd
odd

@sod Fantastisk!

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numericcitizen
numericcitizen

@sod I guess I'm missing the fine print... but I don't see that on my blog... will check if there is an updated version of your plugin.

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sod
sod

@numericcitizen This is not a plug-in or something that will change the behavior of your blog, it's about the experimental Micro.blog feeds I provide for use in a feed reader.

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numericcitizen
numericcitizen

@sod got it! Is this for the long run or it's really experimental?

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toddgrotenhuis
toddgrotenhuis

@sod You are so awesome.

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sherif
sherif

@sod This is super cool! I've already tried adding the feeds to NetNewsWire and I see the link that should open the conversation in app. Is this supposed to work on iOS? I tap the link but nothing happens.

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sod
sod

@sherif Some services might decide to block the microblog URI scheme that is needed to open the Micro.blog app. I know for sure that Feedbin does, maybe you're using them to sync your NetNewsWire subscriptions? If so, try adding the feeds directly to NetNewsWire instead.

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sherif
sherif

@sod Ah interesting. I'm using iCloud to sync the feeds in NNW. If I tap and hold the link I can see the microblog:// url prefix, but tapping still has no effect. Sounds like it's an issue on my end though (?)

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sod
sod

@numericcitizen It's definitely experimental and might go away at any time. That said, I'm subscribing to some of these feeds myself and have no immediate plans to shut them down. But again, it's a random free service on the web (just like MySpace, Google Reader, or Twitter) and will cease to exist someday. So don't depend on it. 😅

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manton
manton

@sod Cool! 👍

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sod
sod

@sherif Interesting indeed! Maybe @netnewswire can bring some clarity: is NNW on iOS okay with links using URI schemes other than http and https? microblog, for example.

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tomselmes
tomselmes

@sod I’m having the same problem on iOS and the Mac. If I copy the link on the Mac and paste it into Safari it then works.

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sod
sod

@tomselmes Yeah, some app developers might choose to block certain links and other elements from the feeds. Unless there's a setting that toggles this behavior, there is not much you can do, I'm afraid, other than making a feature request to the developer or switching to a feed reader that allows links to open other apps.

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numericcitizen
numericcitizen

@sod maybe this is something that could be built in MB ? Cc @manton

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pimoore
pimoore

@sod @sherif This must be something with NNW blocking the URI scheme. I tried adding the feed in the local iPhone account, but the in-app link still didn’t work.

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maique
maique

@sod 🙏🏼

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brandontreb
brandontreb

@toddgrotenhuis This is a great idea! If only NetNewsWire supported Micropub replies, it would be the Holy Grail.

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toddgrotenhuis
toddgrotenhuis

@sod @netnewswire it works for me on Mac but not iOS 🤷‍♂️

Love the idea though!

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sod
sod

@manton I experience a couple of oddities with this URI scheme. Opening, for example, microblog://open/17620435 works as expected on macOS if the Micro.blog app is already running in the background. If not, the app is opened with the timeline showing instead of the conversation thread.

On iOS, the app is opened on the timeline, regardless of the app running in the background or not. Is this just me, or can you confirm this behavior? 🤔

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numericcitizen
numericcitizen

@sod yes, I confirm the same behavior on my experience.

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manton
manton

@sod I do think there's an assumption that the app is already running. Although I can't reproduce what you're seeing on iOS... It seems to work correctly for me. (Testing in the TestFlight beta app, though.)

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jmreekes
jmreekes

@toddgrotenhuis This looks very cool. I’m definitely gonna have to play with this some

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pimoore
pimoore

@manton @sod Confirm regular release iOS version only opens to the timeline for me as well.

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