johnjohnston
johnjohnston
Scripting News: Sunday, October 10, 2021 Today is the 27th anniversary of this blog. To celebrate, I’m opening up Drummer to the world. I hope you love it as much as I do. ❤️ Dave Winer Drummer is, as you would imagine a really interesting project. A quite different approach to blogging... johnjohnston.info
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canion
canion

@johnjohnston I tried it but didn't like it. I love the idea; it's the execution that doesn't work for me.

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artkavanagh
artkavanagh

@johnjohnston @canion I’ve never really got the point of outliners. Most of the things we write, blog posts etc, are too straightforward and short to need one. Also, OPML just seems too complex for most purposes — at least most of my purposes.

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johnjohnston
johnjohnston

@artkavanagh @canion I’m not sold on outliners for blogging, but found it interesting. If I was fluid in using them I can see how they could help longer posts. The scripting element is fascinating. I could write a script to pull in a few different things, pinboard links for example, these could then become the basis for a list of links post. My favourite way of blogging is still TextMate, but it doesn’t support the post kinds stuff I’ve been using recently.

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artkavanagh
artkavanagh

@johnjohnston @canion I can see how the scripting could be useful, as you describe.

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jack
jack

@artkavanagh @johnjohnston Yeah, the benefits of using an outliner to create one blog post are unclear, but with Drummer, your entire blog is one big outline. It's not a loose folder of markdown files, or a database of html, but one single text/OPML outline. That's pretty cool. The benefit of using OPML is both that it's well-documented and it emphasizes interop, which opens all sorts of neat possibilities (transclusion, etc).

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khurtwilliams
khurtwilliams

@johnjohnston my preferred way of blogging is to write first and add links and images later.

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pimoore
pimoore

@khurtwilliams I might have to try this, so far I’ve been adding them inline while writing. It works, but it’s distracting from my train of thought sometimes.

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johnjohnston
johnjohnston

@khurtwilliams me too, in theory, practise is often messier.

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khurtwilliams
khurtwilliams

@pimoore it helps that I write in a Markdown text editor using reference linking. When I am done writing I define the link labels.

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artkavanagh
artkavanagh

@jack @johnjohnston That all makes perfect sense, thanks. I still think Drummer/outlining is probably not for me.

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pimoore
pimoore

@khurtwilliams I’m assuming that works with Micro.blog?

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khurtwilliams
khurtwilliams

@pimoore yes. It does.

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AndySylvester
AndySylvester

@jack glad to see you trying Drummer! I have also added you to the Old School Bloggers river of news at oldschooldrummers.andysylvester.com

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jack
jack

@AndySylvester Thanks for adding me! Yeah, I've been looking forward to giving it a go. Smooth so far.

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adamprocter
adamprocter

@johnjohnston sounds interesting am a little confused at the stools for though zero lock in but uses Twitter to login ? Will download today and check out.

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johnjohnston
johnjohnston

@adamprocter Dave wrote an answer to your question.

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adamprocter
adamprocter

@johnjohnston makes some sense to me. And I have a Twitter log in or 3 so I’ll have a play anyway

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