As I look at the hundreds of links bookmarked over the years of browsing, I am stunned how can this be useful to anyone. It’s a mess - broken links, links relevant only for that time, useless user guides, pointless references. There’s hardly anything useful in here.
@matigo I am inclined to do the same now. The thought that an article might come handy in future needs to shot down quickly. I should trust the search engines and my ability to use them more.
@matigo @amit Vannevar Bush would be so disappointed in both of you.
My bookmarks are a mess, but as I find stuff I want to follow up on, or fill up a window with tabs, I put it in rough categories or folders of a single "story". Then when I'm looking for something to read, I dig thru them.
@mdhughes filing stories to be caught up with later is taken care by read-later services for me (initially, Instapaper, now Pocket).
I do not think the current bookmark interfaces and the features really work well for me with any of its intended purpose.
@matigo That's more a problem of Mozilla's ongoing disaster. My Safari bookmarks have been good for 13 years? And before that I ported them over from Mozilla. Used to use a bookmark cleaner, Bookdog? But now my old folders are full of junk.
@amit If only search engines would give recency some standing in their algorithms. Far too often something seems to be about what I am looking for but dates back 10 years or more and is no longer even relevant.
@amit I've started saving read later articles as private blog posts with the hope of doing something clever and useful with them in the future
@amit Interesting. I find my links from Pinboard to be enormously valuable, despite a depressing number of broken links.
Pinboard will archive the page content for $25/year, in case that's useful.
@jeremycherfas True. It’s a tricky balance to hit though. Content segregation based on topic would be key. For some content, recency would just not matter.
But typically I do find what I am interested in, of course at times it may been tweaking and retweaking the search terms.
@grib Interesting. A nice experiment for a section of my read-later entries, ones that I want to comment on later. How and where are you pushing them? As drafts?
@amit My blog is using Known so I'm just creating a bookmark type post and setting it private. I've also got a microsub server Aperture set as syndication endpoint and send it there to a Read Later channel
@njr I find it really interesting how Pinboard is slowly becoming a bookmarking service of choice for many. My problem with external services is it needs to be an explicit search for a link of interest. Typically that’s not what I want. I just can’t find these “saved” links useful.
@amit I use Pinboard as my read or later service. And I dont use my archive of saved links often, but a few times a year there is some link I can't find by googling that's in there.
@grib Good. I have neither worked out the bookmark posts nor the private posts for my site yet. And I really like the idea of bookmark posts being private. Really don’t think such posts flooding the publicly visible site is a good experience.
@amit With Known I've got a custom feed that I use for micro.blog that filters out some of the noise and reformats posts, based on a great plugin by @cleverdevil
@amit The searches that always have me howling with rage are for WordPress problems. Old stuff always seems to rank higher than it should in a better world.
@amit My blog is using Known so I'm just creating a bookmark type post and setting it private. I've also got a microsub server Aperture set as syndication endpoint and send it there to a Read Later channel
@amit Sure. If I’m understanding you correctly, it's certainly true that the key to using Pinboard or any of the other del.icio.us derivatives is to use tags carefully. With good tagging, I can find things in those bookmarks really quickly. But it's not for everyone.
@amit Pinboard is a very worthy successor to del.icio.us (which it has now acquired) and has the same API and almost all the features except being able to send links. Private by default is an option too, so it could suit.
@amit Personally, I like tags so much I was involved in a start-up (Fluidinfo) building a whole database out of them, and seem to be attempting to rebuild it as a distributed online DB myself now. Overview: njr.radcliffe0.com/microdb-b...
@amit eveything needs to be piped thru archive.org a'la wordpress.org/plugins/p... or gist.github.com/atomotic/...
@njr Sigh. May be it’s just me, but that’s too much work for what I would benefit out of it. I hardly find myself running to my bookmarks.
@njr of course, not to suggest in any way that what you do is not impressive. It indeed is. But may be i Just can’t convince myself to be structured enough 😐
@rey Interesting. Thanks for those links. For sure solves the problem for broken links — but doesn’t, at least for me, solve that of broken interface.
@amit so, so many of my old Pinboard and weblog links are dead. The only way (I can see) is to bang them thru archive.org
@kulturnation This is great set of references Micheal. Thank you! All the recent conversations has for sure pushed me to try Pinboard. I intend to find if this’ useful in any way for me.
@amit I’ve been using Pinboard since beta and highly recommend. I also pay for the archiving service, but again, I don’t feel it’s a truly robust solution
@amit Not sure about impressive, but it works for me. We’re all different. I like tags because oaften things don’t fit easily at a single place in a hierarchy.
@amit Add me to that list too. I’ve been using it for 5+ years. Think I was one of its earliest users
With Known I've got a custom feed that I use for micro.blog that filters out some of the noise and reformats posts, based on a great plugin by @cleverdevil
My blog is using Known so I'm just creating a bookmark type post and setting it private. I've also got a microsub server Aperture set as syndication endpoint and send it there to a Read Later channel
I've started saving read later articles as private blog posts with the hope of doing something clever and useful with them in the future