adamprocter
adamprocter

The web’s transition from nomadism to feudalism.

Excellent commentary on where the web has gotten to. Only the other day I was lamenting the web being harder to build for these days or it least it can appear to be but let’s remind ourselves HTML & a little CSS is all we need

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adders
adders

@adamprocter Thanks for sharing that.

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adamprocter
adamprocter

@kulturnation agreed, my wife never wanted a blog but will browse and post to Facebook since being introduced to it (not by me)

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adamprocter
adamprocter

@kulturnation yes but digital photography killed analog (in the end) for the right reasons and we don’t want that đŸ˜”

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adamprocter
adamprocter

@kulturnation hehe don’t tell them but I’m not in grainy film and dark rooms anymore

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adders
adders

@adamprocter @kulturnation I occasionally miss the darkroom, the red light and the heady aroma of fixer.

But not enough to go back.

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adamprocter
adamprocter

@adders I always feared getting the film roll out of roll and into the tub and that any shred of light might destroy all my hard work in a flash of a light 💡

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jack
jack

@adders @adamprocter @kulturnation The darkroom remains one of my favorite places. At times it can be smelly and frustrating but mostly it's a quiet, dark, distraction and screen-free place to be. I find it to be meditative and therapeutic.

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oyam
oyam

@kulturnation @adamprocter

I would think that most of the people hanging around at FB or Twitter never thought about having a blog on their own.

Most of those people don’t care about having a site. They want to engage with others and have conversation, not host/produce content. Having a site offers content to others. You still have to go around and find other people to engage with. Engaging/responding is slow and takes work (for better or worse). I feel like Twitter or FB people want to announce their thought or what they’re up to and get instant reaction. Walled gardens (I find the term “private clubs” more accurate) facilitate that. It’s much easier to sign up for a social network, follow bunch of friends, and be able comment on their stuff and let them know what you’re doing. You can also share this with only specific groups (buddies, coworkers, family) as opposed to everyone. To replicate something like that with a blog is hard.

I’m by no means defending social networks, but whether we like them or not, some of the experience/functionality has still to be replicated by the open web in a way that’s easily accessible/consumable by non techy people.

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amit
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@oyam @kulturnation @adamprocter I believe not many think they’re “blogging” while on a social network. It’s just a easy getaway, many a times driven by an urge to share all the goods and consume all the things that can distract. It’s easy doing that on siloed platform.

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adamprocter
adamprocter

@khurt yes I agreed photography was not good analogy for the same reasons you state.

I don’t think the web should be just for those that know html and css but a lot of people now just consume the web. Including many kids via other wall gardens not FB/Twitter and naively they give up many rights because the free access comes at the cost of giving over data, that’s the default and I don’t agree with that.

I had a brief discussed with @Manton and @aaronpk around the idea of supporting private feeds so you could quickly build a private network through MB and an indie web viewer. Not sure if this is something the MB platform wants but agree that FB et al. very easy to sign up, consume and use. But we need alternatives and the comments on the original link give a nice timeline of where we have ended up and I think we can end up in other places.

Webs can be independent, subsets or supersets of each other. They can be local, regional or worldwide. The documents available on a web may reside on any computer supported by that web.

CERN software release statement

I think we should move back to the model of Webs and perhaps some of them are (if not already) Facebook or even what a Google search deems fit for you. Some are homepages, some are micro.blog. The web is in an interesting place and as the biggest communication platform in the world that most people only consume through the eyes of advertising revenue it’s a little annoying for sure.

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pedroin
pedroin

@adamprocter @oyam This conversation is fascinating. Thinking a lot about it. Thank you!

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