Apple Is Trying to Kill Web Technology
Hmm not sure on the details but I don’t like the premise, open web tech is obviously really important.
Medium.com (May also prevents reading!)
@adamprocter Adam, I don’t really see Apple trying to “kill” anything. They want to create the best web browsing platform they can. The other browsers want to make an app building platform. It’s why Microsoft switched to Chromium. For then it’s all about Progressive Web Apps. On Apple’s platforms you get a much better experience building native apps. The complaint here is “I can’t build native apps and I’m pissed off you won’t give web tech to do it so I’m gonna complain and say you’re trying to kill off web apps.”
@fahrni fair assessment. I think you can build web apps that work well on iOS myself but I also understand the native argument. I was wondered if there was merit in his statements about Apple moves and like you say maybe not and more his own positioning
@adamprocter I’m trying to find an episode of Debug with Don Melton where he talks about this stuff. In fact it was based on a piece written by this same guy. Don Melton started the Safari team and knows how they operate. I’m still digging for it. Also, I have no doubt you build awesome web apps. 😀
@adamprocter Here’s a link to my blog post that links to the podcast, along with some feedback from Don Melton. iam.fahrni.me/2015/07/2...
@fahrni cool I listen to debug sounds like I missed that one. I know some swift and will delve into swift UI properly when I am ready to install Catalina... played with beta on external HD but here is an old blog of mine where I moved back to web from Swift for a few reasons and one was app rejection - researchnot.es/prototype...
@adamprocter One of Apple's motivation is widening their competitive advantage on privacy (it is a currency now). PWA, like your browser, has too much potential for abuse (why we have plug-ins, ITPs, etc.). Apple is protecting its interests, and as a consequence, the users. If you also notice, Google and Microsoft are pushing for PWA -- because they want a bigger slice of the Apple ecosystem pie.
@fahrni @adamprocter Mr @donmelton is actually here on Micro.blog, too, though he hasn’t been around much lately.
@fahrni @adamprocter That article really read like someone taking something only barely related and spinning it in an entirely different, controversy-inciting direction in order to get his (next, apparently) 15 minutes of fame.
Rejecting apps that use a (bloated) embedded third-party web browser that uses private APIs in violation of App Store rules is not trying to kill web technology; it’s trying to preserve the security, stability, and quality of Mac software :-P The only connection between the two is that these apps embed an entire copy of Chromium, which is a web browser :-P
@smokey yes agree apps that are over bloated browsers and using private APIs is not on, I have looked briefly at Electron with Vue but it felt like unnecessary overkill. I don’t mind a browser wrapper thing mind I use to use Fluid on macOS myself.