Link previews or ads manton.org

@abc If you're only posting a link to a blog post specifically, you mean? Yeah, I can see an argument for that, but most of the current implementations are still too heavy-handed, in my opinion.

@manton I appreciate not having link previews. We have Markdown and if wanted you can add more adornment yourself.

@jthingelstad Thank you. I agree, that's a good point.

@manton honestly for that it just matters if you're viewing on the native Mastodon web client or not. I pretty much never see those as I'm using Ice Cubes on mobile and Elk/Panphy in the browser on my laptop.

But I do see what you're saying. It's a bit distracting. Just expect your first link to pop that big card on Mastodon everytime and prepare accordingly

@starrwulfe I like a lot of the design in Phanpy. It still shows the previews but they are a little smaller. Ivory sometimes shows them way too big, but there is also a setting for it.

@darrenhester Thank you! Yes, that is why ultimately a setting is probably best, so people can opt-in to the experience they want. Also why having multiple apps is a good thing.

@manton

What the…? Did I write a short post about serendipity, or did I post an ad for a shoe company?

I’ve never even considered this perspective until reading it just now. Quite shocking now that you’ve helped me to see it.

@pimoore I'm not sure I ever thought about it exactly this way either until I started writing about it. Seeing my own post with that link preview really struck me.

@pimoore @manton but if you really liked something, is it not ok to post about it even if looks like an ad?

@manton I see what you’re saying but there’s a downside to not having any link previews, especially for your own long blog posts. A micropost with just a picture gets more attention on the Timeline that the few hundreds of words you wrote that appear as but a text-only micropost. Moreover, microposts with more than two pictures can be considered a nuisance too for the Timeline.

@moonmehta That’s a good point. There are a couple things there we could improve.

@manton I for one think the way Craft.do does links (giving the option to keep a simple blue text link or 3 styles of link cards or the embed itself) is perfect. Options are good IMO.

@starrwulfe I'll check that out. I've used Craft but not enough to notice the link styling.

@manton I'm ambivalent on that one... It could be a per-post option. Some content would trigger link previews that I want, but some posts would contain so many links. What would be the best to select for the preview? the first one? the last? a few of them? On the latter, I would disable the option altogether.

@pratik @manton I wouldn’t say it’s not ok, merely that social media visually over-glorifies these links. I wish there were more controls in this regard.

@pimoore @manton @pratik I think a good principle here would be that the micro post should appear as the author intended.

Personally, if I start seeing a bunch of these cards that look like advertisements I’m probably just going to hunt down where they’re coming from and unfollow.

@pimoore @moonmehta True. The previews do emphasize the link more than they should when it simply maybe just a link that users can click for more context. For me, like @moonmehta, it's mostly to help our own macro posts standing out in the timeline. I've figured out a way with just text though.

@fgtech Fair but for all cards or just for products?

@pratik Personal preference. It sounds as if @manton is leaning in the same direction I am, which is that I don’t want my timeline to look like it’s littered with billboards. It doesn’t matter to me if those billboards are actual advertisements; if they interfere with reading and scanning my timeline I don’t want them.

@fgtech that’s what I’m asking. Billboards = product photos? Or even personal photos from our macro posts? Coz now if someone post 3+ photos, the timeline does look “cluttered”.

@pratik

I've figured out a way with just text though.

Tell me!

And, I’m surprised that most people don’t seem to find more than 2 pictures in the Timeline to be a clutter but one visual link card is?

@moonmehta Here you go. May involve tinkering with a custom theme and its RSS feed file.

@pratik Oh, sorry for the confusion! No, this does not apply to people posting photos, as far as I’m concerned. People’s photos here are one of the best parts of micro.blog! I could see others having a different take and I like the experiments with other clients to cater to those tastes.