MrHenko
MrHenko
In reply to Jack, Chris and Patrick on Micro.blog. (And hopefully with the help of webmentions threaded as a reply in that conversation.) Allow me to be somewhat of the contrarian here. To me the iPhone SE (and 4/4S and 5/5s) was the most beautiful iPhone. The look and feel of it was an... blog.henrikcarlsson.se
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jack
jack

@MrHenko Indeed, using an SE will become untenable over time. As @ChrisJWilson said, it's a great phone but a not-as-great pocket computer. Noticing that I've been using my phone (an iPhone X) for less and less recently, I figured it was a good time to see how the SE fares as a daily driver. I'll never not love the form factor. And I'm finding that having Touch ID is a relief, making me wonder if the new SE could be an option one day.

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MrHenko
MrHenko

@jack Yeah, considered as “just” a phone, and by phone we mean thing people use to make phone calls and send text messages, then I can agree that the SE is Apple’s best attempt. (Though if that is the definition of phone, I miss my old pre-smart phone Motorola. Physical numerical keyboard, great battery life and insanely thin. Also, it worked with iSync to sync my calendar and contacts. :) )

It appears quite a few people miss Touch ID which I find interesting. To me after using Face ID for a couple of days, using Touch ID on my iPad felt like bashing two pieces of rock together to produce fire. It felt so ancient. Touch ID never worked flawlessly for me whereas Face ID works almost every time. The only exceptions are when I’m laying down in bed.

What is it about Touch ID that you find better/more appealing? (Other people who read this should feel free to chime in as well.)

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jack
jack

@MrHenko Touch ID feels consistent to me, somehow. I feel like I'm in more control my phone. I know, it doesn't make much sense. Also, Touch ID works great while wearing a mask :). Could be that what I miss is the Home button and Touch ID is riding along. When Face ID doesn't work I find myself flailing about moving my phone and face trying to get it to work. With Touch ID I just lift and reset my thumb. Or it could be nostalgia. Ask me again in a week!

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aaronpk
aaronpk

@MrHenko I vastly prefer TouchID and I wish they would bring it back to the newer phones.

When my phone is lying flat, it often can't see my face, so I have to tilt my phone up in order to unlock it to see a notification. It's a lot easier to tap the TouchID sensor to unlock it to glance at a notification.

FaceID is slower than TouchID, I'm still surprised every time I use a device with TouchID and see how quickly it responds.

FaceID fails when you're wearing a mask, which is now a regular part of everyday life, so using my phone outside is extremely frustrating and I end up entering my PIN all the time.

The only saving grace that FaceID has (or had, prior to masks), was that it works when I'm biking while wearing gloves.

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coldbrain
coldbrain

@aaronpk I find the opposite! I’ve just upgraded to an iPhone 11 and it’s the first phone I’ve had with Face ID. I find it very fast, and it is almost immediate when I‘m already using my phone and use Face ID to log into an app/account that uses it, such as my bank’s app.

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stevesnider
stevesnider

@aaronpk TouchID always worked well for me except that, as a Minnesotan I end up wearing gloves muck of the year, which was roughly as problematic as masks are in today’s world.

Ideally some combination of the two forms of authentication will become viable eventually.

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SteveSawczyn
SteveSawczyn

@aaronpk If I could get enough to pay off my 11 Pro, I would sell it and go for the SE 2 just because it has the touch ID. As a blind guy, I don't need to pick up my phone to look at it and so often just leave it on the desk when reading a quick notification or something -- can't do that with face ID. I know OnePlus and others have a fingerprint sensor under the glass, not quite sure how that works, but maybe Apple could implement something similar and offer people the best of both worlds. Here's hoping.

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SteveSawczyn
SteveSawczyn

@jack It's definitely not you, I feel the same way. Face ID might be cool or something, but it's just not as practical as touch ID, at least in my apparently not so humble opinion. :)

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MrHenko
MrHenko

@jack I can see what you mean by being more in control with a home button and Touch ID. Also the mask thing is absolutely a thing for most of the world. Though as a Swede it’s currently not a problem than I’m having. (Pretty much nobody wears a mask here.)

I’ll try to remember asking you in a week. :)

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MrHenko
MrHenko

@aaronpk Thanks for chiming in. I appears that the question of TouchID vs FaceID is very much a question of circumstances. To me TouchID works unreliably because Sweden have long and cold winters, resulting in dry hands and/or gloves and bad reliability whereas Sweden also has a COVID-19 strategy that's different from the rest of the world that means wearing a mask is just not a thing, so FaceID works very well.

As for the problem with the phone laying down I’m with you fully, though I think I’ve either never really used it that way or I’ve trained myself out of it.

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MrHenko
MrHenko

@aaronpk Another thing, not related to this at all: Thank you so much for your YouTube videos about the Atem Mini and Mini Pro. It was through your videos that I heard about the Atem Mini and got one for work and it really simplified my lectures during the spring semester. So thanks!

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aaronpk
aaronpk

@MrHenko awesome, that's great to hear!

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