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jayeless
jayeless
A linguistic pet peeve of mine: people saying “all X are not Y” when what they mean is “not all X are Y”. I’m usually easygoing about language differences, but this one completely changes the meaning of what you’re saying in a way where it isn’t always obvious what you meant. It’s clear... micro.jayeless.net micro.jayeless.net
Portufraise
Portufraise

@jayeless Yup, I completely understand your point here.

Miraz
Miraz

@jayeless I agree with you but I think it's an American thing…

jayeless
jayeless

@Miraz I think you're right that it's Americans doing it, but surely it's still wrong (or at best, introduces ambiguity, which you usually want to avoid) in American English? Although I know they're also the country of the "I could care less" malarkey…

Miraz
Miraz

@jayeless Well, given that the English language has many words and expressions that have completely changed meaning over time — sometimes to the opposite of the original — I try to just shrug it off (though there's always a little niggle that slips through). Like you, I think it makes no logical sense at all.

jayeless
jayeless

@Miraz You're right, and like I said I'm easygoing about most of those minor changes. (Like double negatives – if you really want to say not the negative, you emphasise it, so "we don't need no education" is not ambiguous, really.) I think this one just bothers me because it confuses me in a way most of these minor quirks don't. "I could care less" is illogical as well, but at least it's always pretty obvious what the person meant… with "all X is not Y" I always have to go back and do a double-take because I assume the literal meaning and then figure out that can't be what they intended, haha.

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@jayeless

”i couldn't care less”

.. is what I have always said - but I am English.

I only miss the “n’t” when someone in America says it …

the eternal rush to abbreviate without thought.

kitt
kitt

@JohnPhilpin I so dislike the "I could care less" speech pattern. I usually retort with, "Oh, so you do care," which usually annoys them, and off we go into a spiral of annoying each other...

JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@kitt “I know you are - but what am I?”

JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@kitt I like ‘retort’ it has a very onomatopoeic feel to it.