Never did think about this, but how does Micro.Blog follow the indieweb principle of owning one's own data if it's the only instance of itself around?
@cambridgeport90 well - this has been been discussed before and it comes down to definitions this from an ex micro blogger belle who seemed to have a different idea of content ownership to @manton .... enjoy :-)
@JohnPhilpin It's a shame she became so disgruntled with the service, when she claimed to like the place so much. For a long time my favorite tool for interacting on micro.blog has been Dialog, the Android app she criticized, which works great and has been updated to include posting original messages. not just replies. If she created a much better competing platform, I've never heard about it. Manton & Jean are still here. It seems to me they are still working very hard & trying to do their very best. Perhaps they should have all talked together in person or on the phone, as a disagreement over terminology doesn't seem to have been all that fruitful for anyone.
@JohnPhilpin @cambridgeport90 I wrote a post last year that answers some of this. I don't really think about it as one "instance", but rather a step on the way to thousands of blogs talking to each other.
@manton I love it; think it will enhance the experience adding my Wordpress feed to it; most stuff will be fed from thre to here. Hence why I didn't add this to Twitter or Mastodon at the moment. I suppose I could, though, for now, considering it could be God knows when until I get my site up LOL.
@manton yup - i don’t agree with the other post - shared it because it was an alt viewpoint ... but I am still here :-)
I get what she is saying - but really if owning your own content means what she was saying - I think the logical extension is that we will all be back to hosting our own servers under the stairs!
@JohnPhilpin @manton @cambridgeport90 YES John, which would exclude all of us here who are not techies. So by her definition I could never own my content, which is BS. I own everything I put here, because if I get pissed off enough at Manton, I could take it all somewhere else. Perhaps "having Control over the content" would be a better verb than "own." And though I'm not a techie, maybe @AndySylvester could show me how to set up my own server under the stairs. And I've got some mighty fine stairs in this English Tudor home.
@fiona
And anyway ... don’t we all have versions of our own content on our own systems ... someone mentioned WP ... but that server sits somewhere else .. but Mars Edit ... do a full synch with that on your micro blog stream and voila ... every single post is now sitting on your hard drive ... which of course I know you all backup 🤓
@fiona I like that. Content ownership can mean so many different thinks, we should be more specific about our strategy and what is important to focus on.
@fiona If by permalinks you are including that you have a copy of the content that can be moved to (imported to) a alternate hosting method without being a developer I agree. One of the things that burned me in the past was the inability to move content to a different hosting method. Hence I had advocated for MB to have an export (which it now does). I think as long as I have my own domain and my content is portability that’s all that most people (??) would consider necessary.
@Ron I think that having a virtual server at Digital Ocean is much more preferable to running one under the stairs....
@AndySylvester @AndySylvester Ha ha ha . . . you may be right for this Internet stuff! But for the really powerful high tech stuff (ham radio) I have an $8 wire antenna in our third floor attic at the top of those stairs, which I used in February to communicate with people in 50 countries on four continents, in just under fourteen hours. Morse Code of course.