writingslowly
writingslowly

Updating a Wordpress site this weekend felt like a chore. I really wanted to enjoy it, but the writing interface, with its content blocks, seemed to block the flow. Why is it like this? Feels like the priority is machine convenience, not the human experience. Opinions, anyone?

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writingslowly
writingslowly

@gr36 Thanks - that makes sense. I'll have a think about writing apps.

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gebloom
gebloom

@writingslowly Content blocks are designed to make a CMS more friendly to non-technical users. Unfortunately, that translates to less convenient for more technically-inclined users. Content blocks drove me off Wordpress, and later, Ghost (which I kickstarted).

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writingslowly
writingslowly

@gebloom Thanks - it feels like being nagged to make more design decisions than I want to, but the decisions I'm offered don't seem very consequential. The problem may not be the content blocks in themselves, but the way the interface foregrounds them, keeps reminding the users they're not writing, they're creating content. In blocks.

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Annie
Annie

@writingslowly I do my writing outside of wp and use a classic editor plugin. The blocks are incredibly distracting. Good if you want to “build a piece of content” which is clearly the focus for wp at this point. Bad for writing.

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pimoore
pimoore

@gebloom @writingslowly What bothered me most was when Ghost—instead of focusing on being a clean, open, lightweight WP alternative—started the push to monetize everything. When I tried it out long ago that wasn’t the case; it was sticking to its original mission and ethos. I didn’t even recognize the platform when I recently visited the website.

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abc
abc

@pimoore I agree with you. Blogging for the joy of blogging is fading. Micro.blog is an exception.

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jenett@toot.community
jenett@toot.community

@writingslowly You may want to check out the Classic Editor plugin...

wordpress.org/plugins/classic-

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writingslowly
writingslowly

@Annie Thanks, I’ll try reverting to the old editor. That might relieve some of my pain!

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writingslowly
writingslowly

@pimoore looks like their pricing tiers are based on staff numbers, so yes, clearly looking to attract media businesses.

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writingslowly
writingslowly

@jenett thanks for the link - I’ll try this, although it feels a bit like progress has stalled! Maybe it’s just my idea of progress that’s old fashioned now…

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jenett@toot.community
jenett@toot.community

@writingslowly Yer welcome - I should have mentioned you can add the plugin directly in Wordpress....

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Skarjune
Skarjune

@writingslowly Gutenberg interface for content blocks in WordPress is a step backwards, as it forces users into an arbitrary abstract workflow. Worse it was concocted primarily by WordPress.COM not WordPress.ORG to please the CEO of the commercial side driving away some Open Source contributors.

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Skarjune
Skarjune

@writingslowly Yes, better to use the Classic Editor plugin for standard web pages. Besides, Elementor is the most popular fix for a friendly and reliable design and layout alternative to blocks in WordPress.

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writingslowly
writingslowly

@Skarjune thanks - I'll see what Elementor has to offer, but I'm not holding my breath! I don't really want an alternative to blocks - just want the interface to stop nagging me about blocks. Getting clearer about my problem as I type: it's the horrible merging of content-creation and styling in apps like Wordpress and Microsoft Word. I think I've been spoiled by the conceptual firewall between html (or markdown) and css!

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writingslowly
writingslowly

@Skarjune yes, that feeling of being forced into their workflow is what I find uncomfortable

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agilelisa
agilelisa

@writingslowly A small data point, we implemented Elementor on a non-profit website we run and then hated it so much we removed it -- and found that this was not easy to do.

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Skarjune
Skarjune

@writingslowly Elementor is a comprehensive wraparound plugin, but more than writers need—still a nice balance for designers and writers to work together. For a theme, GeneratePress is a good general template system, not relying on blocks. Both have free and premium versions.

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Skarjune
Skarjune

@agilelisa None of the many WordPress page builders are loved, most are despised....so what did you go with? Or switch to another CMS? Seems content managers have become content manglers in so many ways.

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writingslowly
writingslowly

@agilelisa sounds troublesome. I guess there are downsides to the convenience and flexibility of WordPress plugins.

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gebloom
gebloom

@pimoore Ghost has turned into a programming re-write of Wordpress, and they’re deservedly successful with that goal. But just as with WP, content blocks and de-emphasizing Markdown turned using it into a chore. Can’t blame them, though. They’re nice people and they’re making money. Ditto WP.

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pimoore
pimoore

@gebloom Yeah this de-emphasizing of Markdown by both platforms seems like a shortsighted decision. It’s a brilliant and useful format for almost any writing on the web—poetry is an exception if special formatting is required. People should feel welcome to write in whatever format is best for them, not best for Wordpress or Ghost.

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