tkoola
tkoola

Helsinki area has a lot of World War I era trenches and fortifications that luckily never were needed. These are from Pitäjänmäki, near where I live

snowy forest and an old trenchsnowy forest and an old trench

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@tkoola I found "Björneborg" (I can't spell the Finnish name) quite interesting. Not WW 1 but still

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lewism
lewism

@tkoola there are a few around Tapiola too I have walked around.

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tkoola
tkoola

@lewism yes, they circle around the area roughly the same way as ring road I

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tkoola
tkoola

@jemostrom wait, what is this? I wasn't able to recall what is in Pori/Björneborg. Never went there 😅

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@tkoola Sorry, my fault. I mixed up "Björneborg" with "Sveaborg" (Soumenlinna).

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tkoola
tkoola

@jemostrom ah, yes, that is amazing. These trenches are much less impressive, mostly forgotten in parks and forests of Helsinki. There are couple of spots where they are more impressive and maintained

Funny thing is the name, Swedes call it Sveaborg and Finns Suomenlinna (roughly it would be Finland's castle)

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odd
odd

@tkoola @jemostrom Both countries claim the borg/castle then. I’m not sure if we have any of those zigzag trenches in Norway. (But we have others, less “architectural” ones). I think most of them were built between the dissolution of the union with Sweden, and WW1.

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@odd @tkoola not really a claim that it's Swedish... but it was built when Finland was a part of Sweden. And since Finland has Swedish as one official language the name lives on (I assume this is the reason)

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odd
odd

@jemostrom 😌👍

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tkoola
tkoola

@jemostrom @odd interestingly Russian empire did not impose its own name at any point

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@tkoola @odd Swedes 😜

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tkoola
tkoola

@jemostrom @odd you said it, not me 😇

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@tkoola 😂

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odd
odd

@jemostrom @tkoola We mustn’t forget our history, but also not forget to look forward. Seeing how much we have in common in the Nordic countries, and overlooking our differences, we can be suited to better stand together against crazy-bananas ideas and practices from elsewhere. Not that we should isolate, but cooperate, to meet the challenges together. 🕊️

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@odd @tkoola agree

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