vincent
vincent

Is Bug Sur already out as a public beta? Or was it just iOS/iPadOs/tvOS so far for public? I am on the developer betas, but I’m unsure if Big Sur is on that public beta list. Genuinely asking for a friend.

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zorn
zorn

@vincent Bug Sur. 😂

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vincent
vincent

@zorn 🤣 Not intentional... but I LOVE IT!

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skoobz
skoobz

@vincent Not public beta, yet. But, it will be.

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vincent
vincent

@sku\_b nice, thank you!

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odd
odd

@zorn Bug, Sure… 😂 @vincent Maybe I’m a bit lucky neither of my macs can be updated to it?

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@zorn 😂

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vincent
vincent

@odd you know... Bug Sur has been pretty stable. I’m still convinced that they could release this tomorrow and it would beat Catalina out the water.

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SimonWoods
SimonWoods

@zorn @vincent Every Radar should begin with:

A bug, sir!

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odd
odd

@vincent OK, that sounds great then 😃👍 Personally I can’t justify forking over more💰💰to Apple right now, so I’ll have to be on Catalina and High Sierra respectively for the moment. Maybe if I win the lottery, there will be something with Apple Silicon 🤑

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Burk
Burk

@vincent Wish I had your install! 🤣

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maique
maique

@vincent Am I the only one without issues with Catalina ? Other than the annoying bit with Photos.app, which I believe is not Catalina-only, I have no problems whatsoever with it. Old Air too...

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vincent
vincent

@maique it’s gotten better for sure, but is riddled with paper cuts since the beginning... and those cuts add up.

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davidrmunson
davidrmunson

@maique I've had no problems whatsoever

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@maique nope, I've been using Catalina on two different machines without a problem

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maique
maique

@jemostrom @davidrmunson Glad I’m not the only one happy with it. I’ve seen so many people unhappy with it on social media I was starting to believe I was somehow lucky to have it working (almost) flawlessly.

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tgray
tgray

@maique I had a pretty annoying issue with the Music app where it used 100% CPU all the time. I was able to fix it by making a new music library. Other than that, everything has been good.

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maique
maique

@tgray My Photos.app is always running like crazy, most times at over 100%, it’s awful.

Left Music for Spotify a while ago, so that one is not a problem I have at the moment. Glad you fixed it, would love to apply your tip to the photo library, not sure how that would work... maybe some investigating is in order.

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tgray
tgray

@maique The music thing was some bug with album art lookup (I think). I have a lot of local ripped music. I ended up exporting my library as an XML file and reimporting it as a new library. No one else on the internet seemed to be having the same problem as me, so it's not common.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@maique @tgray - How long has Photos.app's processes been pegging your CPU? Is it because you imported a large set of photos into it? You know what I'm dealing with

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@maique @vincent - The only issues that I have with Catalina are Bluetooth related. Otherwise, I've had a very solid experience on two computers with it. Almost all of the issues I've read or heard about I do not have.

That said, excited for Big Sur.

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maique
maique

@cdevroe Photos has been going on like this forever. The same processes as you mention. Finding faces, I believe. There are close to 90000 photos there now, I’m always importing “large” sets, that’s what I do for a living, and now, with the baby, it’s getting even worse 😂

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tgray
tgray

@cdevroe @maique No issues here with Photos. I hardly ever open it up though - the only photos I have in it are from my iPhone and synced through iCloud. I have no desire to load it up with my other photography.

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maique
maique

@tgray I do take a lot of photos with the iPhone, and edit another huge amount on the iPhone, from the cameras. The library has been growing for years now, and I can’t seem to find a way to fix it. I want to clean it up a bit, but also can’t find a way to delete the photos. Trying to go through duplicates and bad ones on this scale is close to impossible.

@cdevroe

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@maique I'm operating at well above 100,000 photos and videos in my Library. Photos for Mac seems to perform just fine for the size of the Library that I have, it is the facial recognition part that seems to take a very, very long time. Otherwise, no speed complaints.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@maique You can also use a Smart Album to help with dupes. See my tweet re: that.

Can do something much more sophisticated if needed.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@tgray @maique - I have two Photos for Mac Libraries. One is personal from my wife and I. And the other is my photography projects both film and digital. I keep them separate.

I keep the .photoslibrary files on my MacBook drive, and the images are all on external hard drives.

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@tgray @maique OK, I really need to write all of this up into a single post. I'll find the time in September. I promise.

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maique
maique

@cdevroe I could try that, yes. I really don’t use Photos on the laptop, there is no point in having it on the internal SSD.

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maique
maique

@cdevroe And you have no issues with Faces when the library is on external disks ? It just does nothing when they’re not connected ? Is that it ? That would be enough for me.

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mcg
mcg

@tgray I have recently had my fans spin up on a relatively idle machine with iTunes running, but not playing. Looking at the process list, it was a process that appeared to be doing something with album artwork or metadata. So maybe you're not the only one.

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maique
maique

@cdevroe That’s one post I can’t wait to read 😊

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cdevroe
cdevroe

@maique I can open Photos when the drives are not connected. I can browse the photos, search the library, tag things, etc. It is using the thumbnails it creates. By leaving the files on external drive, my library file is “only” 41GB. If I need an original file, I mount the drives

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maique
maique

@cdevroe Niiice. I’m doing this, I know I am. Thanks.

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tgray
tgray

@mcg So there was some discussion in the Apple forums about AMPArtworkAgent going nuts (like it did for me), but none of the solutions suggested worked. I also slaw some specific things mentioned in the Console that I never saw mentioned elsewhere, leading me to believe it was possibly a unique issue. I say search those forums for AMPArtworkAgent - if that is what is pegging your CPU - and they the suggestions. If those don't work, here is what I did.

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mcg
mcg

@tgray That is the process that was using CPU. Hopefully I won't have to do a full re-import :-(

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