unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.org
unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.org

@claralistensprechen5th

When they get a full fledged moderation system then it would be nice if administrators used it to moderate. The issue is gong to be that you have a lot of kids playing around with their instances that only use moderation as a way to help their friends and punish their enemies. I have noticed this on other Fediverse Instances. Not to say this means we should not strive for a better moderation system as there are those that need and will use it. Though I am concerned that it will go largely unused and greatly abused.

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slison
slison

@unusnemo kids can moderate all they like on their instances, makes no difference to anyone. All moderation does, is local to that instance.

Larger instances however would benefit from a good moderation system, as it’s also more about moderating your own userbase and content going in and out of your instance. Not moderating ends your instance unfederated from other servers. Also if your membership is open, you want to prevent illegal content, as you are responsible.

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unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.org
unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.org

@samuel

It is not like Friendica has zero moderation. It has the ability to report abuse and for the administrator to take action. I you look at the OP it is criticizing Friendica for not having a Mastodon level of moderation, not none at all.

There is no problem with eliminating illegal content, passing it on the the LEA and removing the abusive user.

I am well aware that the kids abuse only effects their own Instance. Until they get blocked by enough Instances that their Instance has near zero propagation.

I was not belittling moderation I was stating that I suspect it will not be widely or wisely used based on what I see on other types of Instances that already have more sophisticated moderation in place. That goes unused or abused.

Sorry you misunderstood me.

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@unusnemo oh all good, my apologies. I should have read the full conversation and not just reply direct to yours post (it’s all I saw in my timeline!). I agree, most moderation is not used widely, or wisely. I’ve not used Friendica as yet either.

Even for mid sized servers, the weakness of decentralized servers is most are run by regular you and I’s who aren’t professional moderators and don’t run social media as a business. Hobby servers with limited funds.

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unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.org
unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.org

@samuel

No worries, I disagree with Fediverse deciding it is a good idea to share comments without the context of the post. It just creates confusion.

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unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.org
unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.org

@samuel

You are welcome to make a user on my Instance if you want to check Friendica out.

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claralistensprechen5th@friendica.rogueproject.org
claralistensprechen5th@friendica.rogueproject.org

@unusnemo @samuel
I wouldn’t go that far, though. If a Mastodon instance displays a Mastadon-generated post, then comments, they DO provide a link to the Thread as such. That’s something else that doesn’t propagate to non-Mastadon instances. Neither Friendica or Diaspora even offer that sort of feature.

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@unusnemo same boat here. Annoying that all I see in my timeline is a response to someone’s post. Because I follow you and not the OP. I either have to click directly on your response or click on “conversation” (in micro.blog) to open the full thread, or at least, what’s loaded on this instance.

Confusing, if you ask me.

It’s like listening in to your conversations and not actually being a part of it - then jumping in!

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@claralistensprechen5th yeah, I am replying and reading through micro.blog and there is a link to “conversation” which I can click and see the whole conversation and should have done that initially before responding. I am new to this #fediverse thing :D

Maybe replies shouldn’t automatically show up in all your followers feeds by default as they are not really part of that specific conversation.

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claralistensprechen5th@friendica.rogueproject.org
claralistensprechen5th@friendica.rogueproject.org

@samuel @unusnemo
Actually, jumping in on a conversation is one of the delights of the Fediverse. Last year, I think, during MastodonMigration's influx of Twitter refugees, somebody posted a poll about which key did you click first: Home or Federated. I daresay I was in a tiny minority of people who responded "Federated", but then again, Mastodon posts both postings and replies individually but provide a link to a thread.

Friendica displays posts and their subsequent comments together, but your Settings determine how those are displayed, so you have a choice in the matter.

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@claralistensprechen5th interesting. Thank you for clarifying :)

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