pratik
pratik

A screenshot of a CNN broadcast featuring an entrance poll result from Iowa, displaying the question “Do you think Biden legitimately won in 2020?” with ‘Yes’ at 28% and ‘No’ at 68%.

Yes, why won’t the Democrats try to convince these people to vote Democratic?

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stupendousman
stupendousman

@pratik This kind of qn infuriates me. CNN KNOWS the answer is already false, but lets just ask this question anyway so it gets legitimacy. Its just fucking hopeless.

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the
the

@pratik Is it safe to assume they only polled self-declared Republicans for this? (Even if so, it's appalling.) 

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pratik
pratik

@stupendousman Maybe but it undercuts the argument that says, c’mon! Only the crazies believe the election was stolen. Well, in that case, 68% of Republicans are crazy

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pratik
pratik

@the Yes. In Iowa. My intent here is to set priors on people that some are saying Democrats should woo.

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SimonWoods
SimonWoods

@pratik Does it matter? Just get their vote (if it's needed — seriously just get the most votes, that's how it works yeah?), then win, and then you govern.

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pratik
pratik

@SimonWoods I agree. But where do you start if this is where they are at?

Or maybe do what Republicans do. Make it harder for them to vote 😉

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amerpie
amerpie

@pratik Well, the shoe seems to fit, but in reality, reciting the party dogma is just one of the rules now. I don't think it's indicative of real belief.

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pratik
pratik

@amerpie Well, at least 28% are redeemable.

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joelhamill
joelhamill

@pratik @SimonWoods That sounds like assuming the only way to get more votes is to convert voters from a rival party to your party. Canvas, Engage, Excite, and Grow your voting block from people not voting rather than trying to shrink their voting block.

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the
the

@joelhamill @pratik @SimonWoods I’ve worked on “get out the vote” efforts and you’re definitely right. However, moving someone from the non-voting column is 1 vote; moving someone from the opposition vote column is worth 2 votes, so worth up to twice the effort. But I think we’re agreed: a sustained, highly organized identify-contact-motivate effort is required!

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pratik
pratik

@joelhamill I agree and my comment was in jest but also half-serious coz that’s what republicans have chosen. On a serious note, getting non-voters to vote for you is far more efficient than getting a person to switch sides.

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SimonWoods
SimonWoods

@pratik @joelhamill @the My reply turned into rambling — as ever with politics!

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SimonWoods
SimonWoods

@pratik Oh and I forgot your question in my rambling: I agree! But yeah, as I said in the long post I think it's most important to prioritise the recruitment efforts and then move on. Often feels like progressives are too interested in getting stuck in theoretical arguments, whilst the conservatives adopt something akin to a ruthless attitude; which in turn feels pragmatic in comparison, even if there is no compromise involved at all.

(oh and in my quiet moments I have unkind notions about voting rights so uh... oh wait you're joking 😇)

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eurobubba
eurobubba

@pratik 68% of Republican caucus participants in Iowa. Seems like a plausible figure to me.

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