bradenslen
bradenslen

It’s amazing how much of the Web 1.0 infrastructure has fallen into ruin or disappeared. Directories, webring hosts, remotely hosted things like guestbooks for static websites, free static web hosts, almost all gone.

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pimoore
pimoore

@bradenslen To be honest I’m surprised GitHub Pages, Netlify, and Vercel are still around to offer free static hosting. I feel like the only thing that saved them was VC funding, or in GitHub’s case the Microsoft buyout. That being said they all have limitations, so the free hosting doesn’t come without cost.

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fgtech
fgtech

@bradenslen Next up: Web 2.0 infrastructure will rot when advertisers move elsewhere. This castle is also made of sand.

This is one reason I self-host. Family photos are far too important to entrust to Facebook. They won’t be around for grandchildren.

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@pimoore for github it's just a small feature, and they make money from git hosting and action minutes. I think I've commented on this before, both Vercel and Netlify focus on enterprise and larger companies because that's where the majority of the people that will pay for hosting are.

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bradenslen
bradenslen

@pimoore I see a lot of Github pages but I have no idea how that all works for webmasters. I'm more in the Neocities crowd which seems to be financially okay while still offering free static hosting with no ads.

I started compiling a list of remotely hosted guestbooks for personal static homepages (yes they have become popular in that niche again) and was shocked at how few were remaining which got me thinking about how little is left of Web 1.0 again. Most all of these services were ad supported by banner ads and that market tanked so no surprise. Still it's sad.

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bradenslen
bradenslen

@fgtech I think you are right. Actually, Web 2.0 will rot faster because it's so centralized. If Facebook and Twitter eventually go down it will seem like half of what people think of as the Web today, has disappeared. Web 1.0 was somewhat more decentralized as long as you didn't get gobbled up by Yahoo. :-)

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pimoore
pimoore

@bradenslen @fgtech @hjertnes If Facebook and Twitter go down, the world would be a better place.

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fgtech
fgtech

@pimoore I wholeheartedly agree! There will still be a very large number of people who are sad and disappointed because they have not experienced anything better.

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@pimoore how is this related to netlify? And I don't think it would solve anything. Something like It or worse would just pop up

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pimoore
pimoore

@hjertnes It’s not really, just a side note. 😉 You’re probably right that something would swoop in to fill the vacuum created by the implosion of one or both of these services. Maybe this time we’d see the warning signs soon enough to stop it?

(Probably not.)

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@pimoore Twitter isn't that bad if you accept it for what it is and are mindful of how you moderate your feed

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pimoore
pimoore

@hjertnes I never got that far, I flew the coop before I really tried moderating and curating my feed. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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skoobz
skoobz

@hjertnes @pimoore Yeah, I filter the heck out of my feed and I find it tolerable.

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fgtech
fgtech

@jasonekratz Yes, it will take a long time. I think it will still happen. Facebook’s biggest asset, its size, is also its biggest liability. It’s probably going to crumble under its own weight or get regulated into smaller pieces because of its flaws ethics.

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fgtech
fgtech

@jasonekratz Yeah, I wouldn’t expect any leadership from the U.S. on this front. Europe is doing a much better job of identifying the issues and taking action.

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@jasonekratz I think certain part of this place is a toxic as fuck too, for example bullshit replies like this one

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@pimoore All networks have their own mood, strengths and weaknesses

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@skoobz I don't have that many filters actually. Disables retweets on a few and the usual nft/crypto bs filters

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