Hey @martinfeld Your Lounge Rumination about gendered food and drink was very interesting. Back around 1980 in smalltown Aotearoa New Zealand friends and I went to the ‘fancy’ restaurant. There were 2 menus: one had prices (for the men); the other didn’t (for the women). ‼️
@Burk I was the local feminist at that time. We sat down, menus were handed out then a hush came down as my friends realised and waited for my reaction… I wasn’t very familiar with restaurants at that age, but had also never heard of such a ridiculous thing.
@lmika Well, it was a small town and also about 1980. Forty years ago things were very different. I’ve just done a prolonged search and can’t find dates when it changed but when I was a kid women couldn’t get bank loans or mortgages without a male guarantor. It’s easy to forget that in my lifetime (I’m 65) things have changed enormously for women. I created a huge fuss in that small town by insisting on being called ‘Ms’ rather than Mrs or Miss. It took them years to get over it.
@Miraz Yeah, that’s very true. It’s easy to get caught seeing events like this through the lens of the present.
@lmika Oh, even then I thought it was scandalous! 😀 But I was a feminist 20-something year old in a backward small town in the rurals which were also behind the times.
@Miraz i remember a few times when my (well to do) girlfriend invited me to dinner at fancy restaurants in Lyon or Paris and we had to swap menus in front of a horrified waiter …
@Miraz This is absolutely outrageous! Thanks again for listening and for sharing this. I had never heard of such a thing…
@Miraz I can only imagine how difficult that must have been… it’s great that you were a pioneer/role model for others though.
