geerlingguy@mastodon.social
geerlingguy@mastodon.social

re @claudeai

I've identified industrial-scale copyright violations on my content by Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, X, and more.

These companies created thousands of crawlers incorporating the text of all my blog posts, open source code, and books into their paid AI models to profit exorbitantly.

Anthropic whining about other AI companies ingesting their model data.

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gary_alderson@infosec.exchange
gary_alderson@infosec.exchange

@geerlingguy @claudeai please retain a lawyer, that is what rsj would do

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longLiveCarryOn@mastodon.social
longLiveCarryOn@mastodon.social

@geerlingguy @claudeai

As Chinese proverb says: He who steals a hook is put to death, but he who steals a country is made a marquis.

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VogueLaGalere@mastodon.online
VogueLaGalere@mastodon.online

@geerlingguy @claudeai Copyright violations give you a hunting license to go after the offenders, but with a possible award of attorneys fees. You'll never got to the point of a judgment, there will be a settlement and probably not worth it after all the headache. Our judicial system is broken. Accept their copying and just continue creating.

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AlexTheStampede@maly.io
AlexTheStampede@maly.io

@geerlingguy @claudeai oh no! Someone used content in a way that was never meant/allowed in the licensing agreement? Outrageous! We should collectively push for legislation that prohibits this kind of abuse, ideally on a worldwide scale.
Seriously, I like Claude but just like when OpenAI cried about DeepSeek, I laugh. You can’t do one thing and then complain when others follow your steps.

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@geerlingguy They do really need to stop complaining about this publicly, its not helping them on the business side. Every single model provider did/doing some version of misappropriation/stealing of human produced content. All the providers listed above are Chinese and beyond the control of even the USgov.

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codingjoe@fosstodon.org
codingjoe@fosstodon.org

@geerlingguy and here I thought, you own the tokens you create... Guess only when it suites the narrative

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libreovergratis@mastodon.social
libreovergratis@mastodon.social

@geerlingguy @claudeai The entire tech industry has been corporate espionage, spite forks, and shit throwing since the 8088 was considered fast, and I'm sick of pretending it's not.

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mukto_manob@mastodon.social
mukto_manob@mastodon.social

@geerlingguy @claudeai it's like Facebook and other social media where user generated content made profit for the social media companies! Now the whole internet is generating profit for the AI companies, the only difference is we didn't sign up for AI!

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aleksandarilic@mastodon.social
aleksandarilic@mastodon.social

@geerlingguy @claudeai - industrial-scale copyright violations today, tomorrow - global-scale human rights violations. What can go wrong.

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luboganev@androiddev.social
luboganev@androiddev.social

@geerlingguy @claudeai

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emiledididoe@toot.community
emiledididoe@toot.community

@geerlingguy @claudeai "Fair? Who's the f*cking nihilists around here?"

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jackyan@mastodon.social
jackyan@mastodon.social

@geerlingguy Good on you, Jeff! Iʼm not skilled enough to identify them all, but there is evidence in our records of Microsoft and Open AI, Google, Tencent, Alibaba and ByteDance harvesting our content at a mass scale. @claudeai

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raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie
raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

@geerlingguy
Actually they are charging and making a loss, so I hope it bursts soon.

Anthropic have a cheek.

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ThisCJ@mastodon.nz
ThisCJ@mastodon.nz

@longLiveCarryOn @geerlingguy

They hang the man and flog the woman
Who steals the goose from off the common
But leave the greater villain loose
Who steals the common from the goose

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jessykenna@mastodon.social
jessykenna@mastodon.social

@geerlingguy @claudeai

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devin_and_earth@mastodon.social
devin_and_earth@mastodon.social

@geerlingguy @claudeai Good news! They have in fact not profited exorbitantly, as not a single one has made any profit whatsoever.

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geerlingguy@mastodon.social
geerlingguy@mastodon.social

@devin_and_earth @claudeai Haha well not in accounting terms / 'reality', but the valuations allow them to purchase billions in hardware and data center capacity.

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geerlingguy@mastodon.social
geerlingguy@mastodon.social

@gary_alderson I have a lawyer, but not the funds to try attacking orgs that could sink a few million dollars into fighting a lawsuit at the drop of a hat.

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gary_alderson@infosec.exchange
gary_alderson@infosec.exchange

@geerlingguy some hungry starving bright lawyer may take it on contingency

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BoloMKXXVIII@mastodon.social
BoloMKXXVIII@mastodon.social

@geerlingguy @claudeai poisonfountain.org/

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samiamsam@mastodon.social
samiamsam@mastodon.social

@geerlingguy @claudeai

we get to steal everything

how dare anyone steal from us

HOW DARE THEY

*head desk*

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mariob@liberdon.com
mariob@liberdon.com

@geerlingguy well, this is why most people do not tolerate the AI hype. Just so you know, there is an AI blocker you can use on your websites: anubis.techaro.lol/

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tail_call@mas.to
tail_call@mas.to

@geerlingguy

Stealing from all of the world? Seemingly alright.

Stealing from AI companies? Industrial-scale copyright violation……

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iinavpov@mastodon.online
iinavpov@mastodon.online

@geerlingguy
I suspect that of you started a fund to hurt those bastards, many would contribute.

I would, for one.

@gary_alderson

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Isurandil@mastodon.online
Isurandil@mastodon.online

@geerlingguy @claudeai Hey, Anthropic, does that mean you will go bankrupt? 🥺

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PixelJones@mindly.social
PixelJones@mindly.social

@AlexTheStampede @geerlingguy @claudeai Hah, yes! Cory Doctorow cites how Facebook famously scraped people's friend connections & posts from MySpace so users would find it easier to migrate to FB ... but .. if a startup tried to do the same to Facebook today, their lawyers would nuke it from space until the rubble glowed. The bell always tolls for Thee not for Me, don't you know.

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jaye@theforkiverse.com
jaye@theforkiverse.com

@geerlingguy @claudeai Turnabout is fair play. The pot calling the kettle black. Take your pick.

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gilgwath@social.tchncs.de
gilgwath@social.tchncs.de

@geerlingguy My exact reaction as well, when I heard that the AI grifters are now complaining to the gov about other grifters grifting on them. @claudeai@threads.net it's only a bit embarrassing, a tiny bit. You plundering societies wealth of public knowledge and everything besides and then selling it back to us at a premium. We are not as stupid as your little sock puppet Artificial Idiots.

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joosteto@mamot.fr
joosteto@mamot.fr

@gary_alderson @geerlingguy
Most lawsuits against firms abusing open source copyrights don't end in multi-million payout, but with a the abusers giving a pinky-promise that they'll will not to it again.
That pinky-promise cannot feed the hungry lawyer.

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gary_alderson@infosec.exchange
gary_alderson@infosec.exchange

@joosteto @geerlingguy make sure you adhere to the license and no problems - most are pretty generous #source #types of licenses #forks

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FaithfullJohn@mastodon.scot
FaithfullJohn@mastodon.scot

@geerlingguy 🤬🤮😭

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