jsamlarose
jsamlarose
Thinking About Files and Documents Right now, I primarily store things in iCloud, with A LOT of legacy storage in Dropbox. I’ve used Readdle Documents (backed by iCloud storage) as a document manager for a long time now, largely because of how good it is for managing PDFs. Documents' capacity for acting a... jsamlarose.micro.blog
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Denny
Denny

@jsamlarose Yeah, you do seem to have a complicated documents/files arrangement! I used Readdle Documents on and off for several years but never really found a place for it. I could see though how it would be useful for the local Music library.

Regarding links to files, is that something you want/need for your use or for sharing with others?

As for edit in place, I do that quite often with text/markdown files where it may be easier. You don’t mention what kind of documents you’re working with there.

In my case I do all my html in Textastic. But it’s also capable of editing markdown. I tend to do most of my markdown writing in iA Writer so keep the files in that app’s iCloud. BUT, I can easily open and edit those files in place in Textastic. There are several markdown/text editors that allow for adding the folders of documents in iCloud or local files, for editing in place. Another one that does this is Taio. The key in these apps seems to be to use the option to “Add Location” (iA Writer), “Add External Folder” (Textastic), “Added Locations” (Taio). Each of those apps has the commonly used sidebar UI element for this sort of stuff.

Other apps like Runestone, a fairly basic (but functional) text editor, just uses what appears to be the native Files app as a browser. Browse anywhere in local files or iCloud and open any text/html/markdown file to edit in place. In some ways I actually prefer more native feeling app. The other apps all have their own opinion on UI design that gives each app a different personality but sometimes also gets in the way.

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jsamlarose
jsamlarose

@Denny

Complicated set-up: guilty as charged! Cruft accumulated over years. Working on it. :)

Links to files: for my own use, rather than sharing. It’s useful to have links to files and folders or some project related assets (e.g. Muse boards) in tasks or project overview notes.

Edit in place: it’s been mostly about PDFs and a few script files, and again, not often enough to become a real issue. I’m just trying to understand my blindspots a bit better. As you’ve offered, it’s likely just a matter of me paying more attention to UI. There’s nothing significantly new about any of this— I never had any problems knowing that the file I just opened in Editorial would be saved back to its location in Dropbox, but that was all clearly signposted in Editorial’s UI (was there a file save/update indicator? I don’t remember precisely…). Opening a PDF in Documents offers a dialog to “save to Documents”, and (as far as I understand it), ignoring that option allows you to work on that file in its original location, but that’s different from using Runestone’s Files interface to select a script to edit (no dialog, it just opens, and away you go). We long since been removed from the acknowledgements of when and where a thing has been saved or updated.

Most of the time I get it right intuitively. But whether it’s a holdover from the old days of iPadOS when fewer apps were using the iCloud file picker and so had their own UI for file management, the even older days of macOS where saving something was a more manual process, or the variety of ways different modern iPadOS apps signpost editing in place, I still do find myself checking on occasion: “wait, did that just save properly?”

This may also has something to do with the positioning of apps over files. I used to work with files or documents. Editorial (and apps like it) gave me a way of working with my text files stored in Dropbox, and I would also work with those files in completely different applications on my Mac. For better or for worse, since I shifted to using the iPad as my primary computing device back in 2016, my predominant mental model for getting things done has been app-centric. Notes in Drafts, boards in Muse, mind maps in MindNode, and so on. Where the file lived wasn’t less important than how easy it was to get that file into the app I needed to use to work on it, and once it got there, that was pretty much where the file remained.

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