Trying out #deltachat ( @delta ), and I'm really liking it so far! It is the first alternative messaging app that may pry me away from Signal. Especially once I'm able to #selfhost a chatmail server. The hard part, as always, will be getting other people to use it.

@jpdvm2014 hosting a chatmail server is always welcome but not necessary. Each chatmail instance can typically serve 10K's or 100Ks of users easily. Chatmail servers are more like routers than classic e-mail servers. They constantly forget messages, and #deltachat generally uses e-mail servers only as ephemeral transport, rather than persistent message storage.

@delta @jpdvm2014
Hi delta chat friends, i try to install mailadm on a running mailcow docker (VPS) installation, but the command: docker build . -t mailadm-mailcow
brings:
=> CACHED [2/9] RUN apk add py3-pip py3-pillow cmake clang clang-dev mak 0.0s
=> ERROR [3/9] RUN pip install -U pip
any ideas for me ?

@agilia @jpdvm2014 ah, that guide is rather outdated. Instead of mailcow + mailadm, we recommend setting up chatmail after these instructions: https://github.com/chatmail/server/

@jonah How large? I've been using it for a few days with someone and haven't had any issues sending anything so far.

@jonah I didn't know that, but I don't usually send files that large anyway except maybe videos. I'd probably share a link to my #immich instance instead.

@jonah Yea, I just tried a video and it auto-compressed. Went from 200mb to 5mb. Quality was noticeably worse, but not terrible. For documents, I don't send them a lot. I #selfhost #zipline, #filerun, and #pairdrop instances, so I could use one of those in a pinch.

@delta @jpdvm2014
I’ve tested chatmail with a VPS with Ubuntu20.04,22.04, Debian12. I got always the same Errors: --> Starting operation: Install Dovecot....
dovecot-core : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.36) but 2.35-0ubuntu3.9 is to be installed
Depends: libzstd1 (>= 1.5.2) but 1.4.8+dfsg-3build1 is to be installed
dovecot-imapd : Depends: libzstd1 (>= 1.5.2) but 1.4.8+dfsg-3build1 is to be installed

@agilia @jpdvm2014 could you open a bug issue on https://GitHub.com/chatmail/server ?

@jpdvm2014 in your use, how do you plan to handle larger message sizes?

@jpdvm2014 yeah, mostly shows up for video, some PDFs. auto compression of video helps