Munish
Munish

Hello community, who is using a point and shoot over a smart phone for photography and if you are, what are you using ? 📷

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aeryn
aeryn

@Munish I use a Ricoh GR II a lot. There are newer versions. They take very nice photos and are very pocketable

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Munish
Munish

@aeryn I am hearing a lot abut the Richo. I will need to check it out. How do you find the build and software?

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aeryn
aeryn

@Munish it’s solid, well made. I’m also a Nikon user and I find them similar in the menus but a little quirky

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Munish
Munish

@aeryn excellent. Thanks for the info. I hear that it’s really good as a point and shoot with the presets. Is that your thoughts too?

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aeryn
aeryn

@Munish yeah it’s great as a point and shoot or if you want to get more creative you can go fully manual too

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kimonostereo
kimonostereo

@Munish Ricoh GRIII and GRIIIx HDF. I’ve been using GRs since 2019 and carry one with me almost everywhere I go.

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@Munish I had a GR IIIx but I switched to a GR IIIx HDF. Small, compact and very capable. Sometimes I feel like being adventurous and use an old micro four thirds camera (GM1 or GM5 or GX80 or GX8) with a compact lens.

Hmmm, now when I think about it, I don't take so many photos with my phone anymore.

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Munish
Munish

@kimonostereo thanks for the advice, it seems GRs are popular. I have. Fuji XT30, which I am not using as much due to the bulk. Or is it because I just want a new camera..hmm @jemostrom @aeryn

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pratik
pratik

@Munish By point and shoot, do you mean no fussing around with controls at all or do you mean simply a more portable small-sized camera?

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@Munish 😁

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Munish
Munish

@pratik a bit of both I suppose. More swaying towards a portable camera

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Munish
Munish

@jemostrom right, I need to pick your brain. What’s the difference between the GR iii x hdf vs the GR iii HDf ? Also, is it worth the upgrade from the GR iii?

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Munish
Munish

@kimonostereo what is the difference between the two?

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alpower
alpower

@Munish the hdf stands for ‘highlight diffusion filter’ and makes lights and highlights pop in photos. The difference between those two cameras is the iii is a 28mm equivalent focal length and the iiix is a 40mm equivalent focal length so a bit more zoomed in.

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Munish
Munish

@alpower ahhh so down to preference on the shooting style between those two models. Thanks so much

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pratik
pratik

@Munish A smallish mirror-less camera ought to do the trick. You can always shoot with the P mode most of the time but have the option to crank it up if you feel like it. Weight was the biggest factor for me when I was shopping for one. After waiting forever for Fuji X100V, I went with the Nikon z fc. But it's still not more convenient than just shooting with your phone.

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kimonostereo
kimonostereo

@Munish GRIII and GRIIIx are essentially the exact same camera with different focal lengths. GRIII has the “classic” 28mm (wider, more context) and the GRIIIx is 40mm (closer, more subject/detail focused). The HDF versions remove the ND (neutral density) filter add a special Highlight Diffusion Filter that can be activated to make the photos a bit softer feel in certain lighting conditions.

My advice is if you’ve never handled a Ricoh GR before, try to find a place that has one before you purchase so you can see if it works for your needs.

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alpower
alpower

@Munish anytime. You can see how much tighter the iiiX is here youtu.be/dY9xmUAsi...

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@Munish GR III has a lens corresponding to 28mm full frame, while the GR IIIx has a lens equal to 40mm. IIIx to IIIx HDF ... that remains to be seen, I've only had it for a week and I haven't really tried out the HDF feature yet.

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Munish
Munish

@alpower 👍🏽

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Munish
Munish

@jemostrom I’m very jealous. Cannot seem to find one in the UK lol

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Munish
Munish

@kimonostereo thank you so much for the details. Seeing more in the net too.

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Munish
Munish

@pratik thanks so much. You going to still get the Fuji😀

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pratik
pratik

@Munish Nope. In fact, might go the opposite way and even sell the one I got and go all in with the iPhone with some accessories. The quality is going to merge at some point. It's mostly now about the feel and mindfulness aspect.

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Munish
Munish

@pratik yes I know what you mean. The accessories open up a can of worms though.

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Munish
Munish

@jemostrom how you finding the camera ? I still cannot get hold of one

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@Munish It's pretty nice. However, I haven't really had the reason to try out the HDF feature much (I took some photos with it enabled but they were bad - for other reasons than HDF - so I deleted them, but it looked like the HDF thing could be nice if used right). Anyway, here are a few photos from it flickr.com/photos/je... flickr.com/photos/je... flickr.com/photos/je... and flickr.com/photos/je...

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ChrisJWilson
ChrisJWilson

@jemostrom Thanks for sharing some examples.

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Munish
Munish

@jemostrom thanks so much and for sharing. Look great. Let me know if the HDF gets any better ?

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Munish
Munish

@jemostrom are all your images straight from the camera ?

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@Munish Since I don't really remember, I'm going to say that they are edited. That said, when taking B&W photos I usually take RAW+JPG, then I edit the RAW in lightroom and delete the JPG version (don't ask, that's just the way I do it 🤷🏻). Color images are very interesting ... because they come out perfect for me 95% of the time, and I am usually quite happy with the results when I import the RAW files into LR.

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Munish
Munish

@jemostrom thanks, which one of the preset black and white setting is your preference? I will let you know how I get on when mine arrive. I have been told to check out the Leica dlux 8 🤔

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@Munish I usually use the hard BW

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Munish
Munish

@jemostrom I love the camera. Still need time to mess about with it

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@Munish Yes, personally I like to use new stuff for a while (1-2 years), and the read through the manual and check various tutorials. I usually find a lot of new stuff then that's useful for me + I know how I use it so it's easier to customize.

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Munish
Munish

@jemostrom excellent and great to know.

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gregmoore
gregmoore

@Munish I’m still shooting with my old Fuji XE-2 and some used lenses. (I don’t have the budget for thousand-dollar cameras.) Even though it’s relatively small, the size does prevent me from taking it as many places as I’d like but the photo quality still makes me very happy when I do.

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Munish
Munish

@gregmoore interesting people still recommend that Fuji as a very good camera. It is a shame when the size of the setup prevents usage.

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Ozzie48
Ozzie48

@Munish I have just traded a couple of my little used zoom lenses for a Nikon Z30 to be my walking around camera. It is very lightweight and I have it paired with the Nikkor Z 26mm pancake lens. No regrets coming from full frame Nikon Z 6ii which I still own and use.

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@Ozzie48 if I remember correctly, the z30 has no EVF and no IBIS, what's your opinion of these differences?

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Ozzie48
Ozzie48

@jemostrom I can deal with omissions. I am using the camera with a wide angle light prime which helps with getting sharp photos without ibis. I’m getting used to composing with lcd display and it is mainly problematic in bright sunlight but it helps that camera focus show green square on focus .

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gregmoore
gregmoore

@Munish It's very difficult to compete with "it's in your pocket right now." I absolutely love my old Fuji camera but I can't really keep it on me without a bag.

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Munish
Munish

@gregmoore totally agree. The smartphone for photo taking does not give me joy anymore.

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Munish
Munish

@Ozzie48 looks good. We all have to go for what we feel comfortable with.

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jemostrom
jemostrom

@Munish You previously asked about how photos from my GR IIIx HDF compares to a regular GR IIIx, here is an example. This first photo is with the HDF filter turned off

And here is the same scene with HDF filter turned on

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Munish
Munish

@jemostrom wow beautiful photos. Thanks so much. Looks like a beautiful place

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