ChrisJWilson
ChrisJWilson
A major strength and weakness of obsidian is that you make the structure. The strength is that makes you think about the ideas you save. The weakness is that slows down quick capture and can lead to more time organizing than using. I’m starting to think that maybe I need a separate app for capture, bookma... chrisjwilson.me
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jeffperry
jeffperry

@ChrisJWilson This is my number one struggle with Obsidian. It has so much to offer but organizing things isn't one of them.

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ChrisJWilson
ChrisJWilson

@jeffperry i was just looking to quickly save a link for later and my instinct was save to obsidian as I keep most things there but I realised how much extra effort I’d need to do it right, unlike some of these apps (even plain old notes!) which would make a bookmark and preview and make it so much easier to find. But I really think obsidian is great for a zettlekasten type system for thinking.

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mindofaaronw
mindofaaronw

@jeffperry @ChrisJWilson was my struggle as well. I just didn’t want to spend the time to create a system that worked to meet my needs. Would rather it just worked good enough out of the box, and it simply does not without lots of tinkering.

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philbowell
philbowell

@ChrisJWilson I feel that. I stopped using Obsidian for a while but have been feeling pulled back to it lately. I'm trying to simplify as much as possible as I delve back in.

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johnchandler
johnchandler

@ChrisJWilson I have had some of these same challenges with Obsidian. But I prefer to keep everything in one place so I want it to be both a deep well of notes AND a place to write/develop ideas. Ultimately, I guess I like that I can bury things in Obsidian in a way that they aren't clutter, but still easily be found if needed.

Most helpful for me has been a simple dashboard page to reference key projects/notes. It's also been helpful to reduce capture friction by building multiple Drafts actions that can move captured notes into the proper folder or append to the proper note.

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ChrisJWilson
ChrisJWilson

@philbowell What did you find too difficult/high friction about it?

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ChrisJWilson
ChrisJWilson

@johnchandler As I say, it's the strength and weakness. At times I love the intention behind everything and how flexible it is with templates, plugins, or draft actions as you do. But one reason I dropped Notion was because I was fiddling with my system more than using, and I'm feeling that again. Admittedly this is because I'm refactoring after years of use and evolving interests, plus the way that obsidian organically grows helps a lot, but less management is an advantage of some apps.

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johnchandler
johnchandler

@ChrisJWilson Yeah, I agree about fiddling. I just disabled the make.md plugin last night after trying it for a week because it added more complexity and stole attention.

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philbowell
philbowell

@ChrisJWilson mostly the constant temptation to fiddle with the UI, but also the temptation to get everything to go into it.

The new default theme has tackled the first one, it feels much more at home on my Mac now. So I’m hoping with that element gone I’ll stop fiddling and actually use the app for some notes and writing.

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