jayeless
jayeless

Today I discovered that the English word country is in fact cognate to Latin (and descendents’) contra; apparently it comes (via Old French) from a Vulgar Latin phrase terra contrata ā€œland lying oppositeā€. Wouldn’t have guessed that! 😲 The Anglo-Saxon word is land.

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odd
odd

@jayeless We use land in my country. šŸ‡³šŸ‡“ ā€œOn the contrary countryā€.

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jayeless
jayeless

@odd Heh, I’m not really surprised! I imagine ā€œlandā€ would be common in all the other Germanic languages 😊 In fact, among the European languages I know anything much about, I think English is fairly unique in introducing this distinction between ā€œlandā€ and ā€œcountryā€ in the first place.

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Stefanyeah
Stefanyeah

@jayeless it’s a lot of Land in German, too. Although, we do have Staat, too. Never thought about it, but I think Staat is used when having a political conversation, Land might be more geographical? šŸ¤”
(Disclaimer: This really is the first time I’ve pondered this and could be completely false.)

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jayeless
jayeless

@Stefanyeah I don’t know German, but just from how the word ā€œstateā€ is used in English, I’d say your theory sounds pretty likely. I mean ofc in English a state can be a subdivision of a federal country (like I live in the state of Victoria) but when it’s used about a whole country it’s to talk about it as a political entity (rather than the territory or the people or whatever). So if it’s similar in German that’d make sense 😃

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odd
odd

@jayeless One can of course say that one live in a state of euphoria as well. @stefanyeah

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jayeless
jayeless

@odd Oh for sure, it has that meaning too! In fact I think that’s the meaning that came first, haha.

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Stefanyeah
Stefanyeah

@jayeless Yeah, been thinking about it a bit more. I could say ā€œThe Staat should be doing something about thisā€ when I want government to do some governmenting. I would never say: ā€œThe Land should be doing something about it.ā€
Although, we’ve got our federal states that are referred to as LƤnder and have their own sets of laws, but that’s taking it too far for this late in the morning.

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jayeless
jayeless

@Stefanyeah Oh, that’s interesting that in German your states are called LƤnder! It makes sense but I wouldn’t necessarily have guessed it 😃

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