@amit this is the reason there isn’t a reasonable alternative to an iPhone for me. And if I were to ditch my iPhone it’s more likely that I’d not have a phone
@hjertnes A completely valid justification to stay on iPhone. But I just feel there are equally valid justifications that push some (majority) of the people away from the platform. Cost is just one factor -- there is a price that one has to pay to get the most secured and private device. Many cannot afford or fail to justify paying that price.
So it is necessary that the competition (who charge almost same price as iPhones) wake to the reality that they aren't thiking enough about security.
@amit I'm never going to use Android for a number of reasons, I boycott Google, I think Material Design looks horrible and I have never seen any security expert say that the Android security model is as secure as the secure enclave (and the other security measures Apple have done down to hardware level)
@jmreekes I think the security problems with Android that I’m worried about is much more fundamental and has to do with software and hardware architecture
@hjertnes That is a big concern. I know the Pixel 3 (and presumably Pixel 4) has a Secure Enclave type chip but I don’t know if any other Android devices do
@hjertnes Sure, that's one perspective. But as I wrote sometime back, Apple has the more secure, more private platform that majority cannot afford. Android has to fill the gap.
Plus when we say Android, it is a barrage of cheap and premium devices. We may need to judge the security as a combination of both hardware and the platform. Pixel 3 and earlier Samsung premium devices have provided well-designed, secure options for fingerprint biometric.
@jmreekes I think attention awareness is key for face unlocking - sure, if it doesn't work for you specifically, you have to disable it. I think Apple must have identified this possibility during their tests. So they provided the option.
In an ideal world, there is no need for this particular option.
@hjertnes In India and similar markets, an equally spec'd and well featured device can be purchased for 4 times a lower price (~500USD for iPhone 8 vs ~125USD for mid-range android). Lower end android are even cheaper.