aaronpk
aaronpk
What are the three features a programming language absolutely must have in order for you to use it?

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eli
eli

@aaronpk 1) well documented, 2) support for higher-order functions or something similar, 3) ...and I am struggling to think of a third, tbh

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@aaronpk should be easy to script in it, should be easy to scale up and write OOP code in it, shouldn't be Objective C or Java.

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aaronpk
aaronpk

@nitinkhanna What about ObjC and Java do you not like?

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@aaronpk java - too many security issues and it’s time has come. Also, too many easier ways to do the same things. I’ve suffered through some J2EE. ObjC - too damn ugly. Always felt alien and absurd the way the Classes are named. Not my cup of tea maybe.

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@nitinkhanna A language I want to script in and a language I want to develop in are two very different things for me. With very different requirements

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@nitinkhanna Java or the JVM, like COBOL will no go anywhere in our lifetime.

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@hjertnes I hear you, but I've reached a comfortable place with python...

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@hjertnes true that!

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@nitinkhanna I’ve fallen so out of love with python. I prefer C# because of how easy it is to write backed stuff in a way that makes it easy to nuit rest and extend. And I prefer node for command line stuff because of how easy it is to make a tool push it to npm and have it available anywhere through npx

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@hjertnes yeah the freedom npm seems to afford is nice...

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@nitinkhanna Not just that, but the way python handles pip packages is not that great, the short version is that they’re global. Another thing is that how I want to write code today doesn’t work that great or at all with python

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@hjertnes I didn't understand the latter part. I certainly understand and sympathize with the former...

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@nitinkhanna Python is in a weird spot for me, it is a OOP language without types. That means that none of the of the patterns I love in C# works. And when it comes to dynamic languages I prefer lisps

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@hjertnes I've not got a computer science background, so while I understand a few words like types, most of what differentiates languages, I am blind to, and thankfully so. I don't ever want to judge what's the best way of doing things, as it would be too paralysing for me. I tried to do that with app making with Ionic and React Native and all I learnt from that experience was that I don't care to learn the correct way of doing things as long as they get done!

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hjertnes
hjertnes

@nitinkhanna I don’t have a CS background, but I just learned most of the basics in my mother’s basement. And was lucky enough to get my first dev job without any of the formalities. I love learning and figuring out the best ways of doing stuff.

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nitinkhanna
nitinkhanna

@hjertnes to each their own, I suppose... :)

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Latz
Latz

@aaronpk condition, loops, input/output

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