With the brew folks heading to web3 I guess it’s time to look at nix again.
@mcg Sigh, another one bites the crypto dust. If you haven’t already take a look at MacPorts, I switched to it at work and couldn’t be happier.
@mcg I'm not a crypto evangelist but what is horrible about that "tea" project? The announcement is super weird but the idea in itself looks interesting and the reasoning and consequences look ok
@pimoore Aparently the brew creator hasn’t been involved with brew for a while. So I guess it won’t change, but I have other issues with brew and had looked at nix before If nix doesn’t workout then Ports for sure. I like the extras you get with nix, like directory and shell based environments, easy rollbacks.
@fabio Nothing it proposes to do, couldn’t be done without *chains and doesn’t even deliver things like being distributed. It adds complexity for no gain. I absolutely don’t want my package manager turned into a financial vehicle. And on top of that, almost everything around crypto has some large amount of grift involved.
@mcg right, for sure those things can be done with alternative techs too, I'm not sure tho if a tech can be discounted just because you can do the same with another tech. About financial vehicle -> there are so many projects that survive just because of the good heart of their mantainers. If grants can be automatically spread around and are guaranteed to also reach small mantainers, I don't see that as such a bad thing. Grift - sure, that's the part about the announcement that looks fishy to me. Lots of talk about financial conditions of the mantainer that don't really matter to the general public. The writing lacks the connection between the financial conditions of the mantainer and the announcement of this new tech/platform. And the fact that "tea" is already a company with venture investment - definetly not a good sign. Personally I'm not ready to embrace blockchain in software packages and will watch further developments, but not ready to discount it either
@pimoore for me, the choice will be the same, but the reason is the killing of the native macos app.
@fabio You've seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g It is long, but well worth watching and not just about NFTs.
@mcg not sure I have 2 hours but thank you for the interesting link; I absolutely hate NFTs, but once again not ready to trash blockchain just because every grifter in town is drawn to it
@fabio It really is worth the time to watch. He gives an overview of a lot of things in the "crypto" space. Maybe I'll change my mind when I see something postive developed using this tech, that couldn't be done without using a chain, more simply and with less negatives.
@mcg absolutely valid position. I think already blockchains do unique things in the financial space; whether those things are good for our societies - that's the question I'm most interested in and I'm not sure about the answer.
@mcg Coincidentally, I saw this is I was thinking about moving back to nix again. I used it for declarative configuration of my dotfiles a few years ago, but found it a bit unpredictable: stuff would build on one machine but not another. I'm starting to build a config up again out of curiosity, but I would be interested in your experience of it.